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2056 Draft

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
@Wolfman21

Just because it's shitty doesnt mean I dont want to add good intangible shit heads. No more locker room cancers.

Talk about putting the cart before the horse. I doubt any of these guys drafted after the second make it to the WBL with the teams that drafted them. Shit City babby.
 

Mr. Radpants

Trog Five Standing By
How many thirds, that you drafted in the past five drafts, have made it at the WBL and in a role other than UT/4th OF/BP?

Two players that I've drafted past the third are on your WBL roster and should be starting, but I guess you are tanking? You are playing a 1B at CF, after all. This was basically considered illegal but JD made it the new normal I guess.
 

Schauwn

Well-Known Member
Two players that I've drafted past the third are on your WBL roster and should be starting, but I guess you are tanking? You are playing a 1B at CF, after all. This was basically considered illegal but JD made it the new normal I guess.
It is illegal. Players have to play their positions.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Two players that I've drafted past the third are on your WBL roster and should be starting, but I guess you are tanking? You are playing a 1B at CF, after all. This was basically considered illegal but JD made it the new normal I guess.

I said "YOUR ROSTER" not a trade partner. Who do I have a CF?
 

Mr. Radpants

Trog Five Standing By
I said "YOUR ROSTER" not a trade partner. Who do I have a CF?

OOTP is a resource management game and I'm in a contention window. Prospects are going to get traded for known quantities at need positions more often than if I was rebuilding.

You're reaching new levels of ridiculous with this draft stuff. I was right about Sanchez btw, I just didn't have a place to play him while in a one game do or die pennant race.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
OOTP is a resource management game and I'm in a contention window. Prospects are going to get traded for known quantities at need positions more often than if I was rebuilding.

You're reaching new levels of ridiculous with this draft stuff. I was right about Sanchez btw, I just didn't have a place to play him while in a one game do or die pennant race.

Don't get bent out of shape with the shookness babby, I was just pointing out that trying to pick "clubhouse" guys with no skills is a waste of time since you have to deal a lot of these guys to get pieces for playoff runs. Take the BPA with the highest ceiling and move on. If he's a shitbag deal with it when it becomes a problem, not when that *might* be in six years. I drafted what appears to be the most talented and least coachable 1-1 in a while so you know I don't give a fuck.

And we were both right about Sanchez. I benched him towards the end because I didn't want him to get hurt during an Osick187 sim. He's going to be my starting RF for the next 3-4 seasons.
 

Travis7401

Douglass Tagg
Community Liaison
The riggers are ALWAYS in a contention window and a lot of my players were from rounds 3+. Here are the guys who saw some playing time this season.

Round 11
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_6600.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_6922.html

Round 10
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_5662.html

Round 3
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_6539.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_4960.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_7223.html

In addition, one of my players went undrafted completely (granted he was injured during the draft)

UDFA
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_7806.html

It is unrealistic to think that starters SHOULD regularly come from rounds 3+. With how long players last in this league, most of your starters SHOULD come in Round 1 and that's it.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
It is unrealistic to think that starters SHOULD regularly come from rounds 3+. With how long players last in this league, most of your starters SHOULD come in Round 1 and that's it.

That's my point though - a lot of role players with very short careers come after the 1st round, which isn't too dissimilar from how it works in MLB. Worrying about one of the guys you take in the 3rd round and beyond causing issues in the clubhouse is, to borrow a phrase from the originial Shook One @Mr. Radpants, the ultimate in chasing noise. Has the WBL had as many straight up 1st round busts as MLB has had recently? I'm specifically thinking of guys like Matt Bush, Tim Beckham, Dustin Ackley, Donovan Tate, Byron Buxton, and Danny Hultzen that are just straight up busts with no hope of living up to the hype.
 

Karl Hungus

Here to fix the cable
That's my point though - a lot of role players with very short careers come after the 1st round, which isn't too dissimilar from how it works in MLB. Worrying about one of the guys you take in the 3rd round and beyond causing issues in the clubhouse is, to borrow a phrase from the originial Shook One @Mr. Radpants, the ultimate in chasing noise. Has the WBL had as many straight up 1st round busts as MLB has had recently? I'm specifically thinking of guys like Matt Bush, Tim Beckham, Dustin Ackley, Donovan Tate, Byron Buxton, and Danny Hultzen that are just straight up busts with no hope of living up to the hype.


Here's 2044's #3 overall- http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports//players/player_8334.html

Go here and just look at the names in the 1st round that you've ever seen. Lots and lots of busts. http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/cgi-bin/ootpou.pl?page=draftHistory
 

Travis7401

Douglass Tagg
Community Liaison
Fwiw, the reasons players usually BUST has less to do with the player and more to do with mongmanagement. You're just going to have to save urself from urself with Goldmine. No moving him up to AA till your co-GM crowdsourcing says so!
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Fwiw, the reasons players usually BUST has less to do with the player and more to do with mongmanagement. You're just going to have to save urself from urself with Goldmine. No moving him up to AA till your co-GM crowdsourcing says so!

Goldmine's fucked

Nah, my plan is to leave him at A for as long as I can (probably 3-4 seasons) and then bump him to AA for a season and see how he does. We're going to be bad for a long time so no reason to rush the guy like he's going to be the difference between 4th and 5th in JV. Besides, I have two guys I'm grooming for LF when Ploeg inevitably falls apart and can't hit or field so if Gold Mine is a bust no big deal. Obviously I'd prefer the guy actual develop and be a solid 3+ WAR player but if he doesn't it's not the end of the world.
 

Karl Hungus

Here to fix the cable
Nah, my plan is to leave him at A for as long as I can (probably 3-4 seasons) and then bump him to AA for a season and see how he does. We're going to be bad for a long time so no reason to rush the guy like he's going to be the difference between 4th and 5th in JV. Besides, I have two guys I'm grooming for LF when Ploeg inevitably falls apart and can't hit or field so if Gold Mine is a bust no big deal. Obviously I'd prefer the guy actual develop and be a solid 3+ WAR player but if he doesn't it's not the end of the world.


3-4 years? He'll get bored AF and his development will stall.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
3-4 years? He'll get bored AF and his development will stall.

He's just about to turn 17 so it's going to take him a while to develop. Ha Alisjahbana (my future LF) just finished his first "full" year in A and he's got another year or two at A before he's ready for AA, especially defensively. That's the downside of taking 17 year olds.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
We just need to crowdsource Tony posting about the draft quality and we're good to go babby

I'm trying to get these fools so shook they leave some of the lottery tickets for me when I get to pick again in the 10th round. This is actually a really good draft, like the past two, I'm just mad I only had two picks early on.
 
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