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2053 Offseason Thread
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jdlikewhoa
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He's averaging 29.8 per season for his career. Could be worse. I was expecting 400 IP or something insane
jdlikewhoa
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Either way, no chance that final year gets paid out
Right. As it stands he doesn't lose anything. With 25 at least he loses a few starts.
for lloyds shenanigans this offseason, I hope whoever the commish is sims every sim multiple times until he has a losing week
btw, is there any more of a contract that screams "i'm gonna be quitting in 2 seasons anyways" than that contract? $35, 50 and 40 million over the final 3 seasons? bahahaha...what a joke
btw, is there any more of a contract that screams "i'm gonna be quitting in 2 seasons anyways" than that contract? $35, 50 and 40 million over the final 3 seasons? bahahaha...what a joke
Lloyd Carr
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I dont have $30M to spend now, and thats what he wanted per year. If I wanted to get him, I had to backload the contract.
And if vesting options are going to be a thing, 30 games seemed fair. He has pitched less than 30 games in 40% of the seasons he has been in the WBL. I figured making him reach 30 was a fair metric.
Additionally, my plan from the get-go was to compete for a ship with my current crop, until they all died. That gives me about two more seasons, maybe one more if I get lucky. After that, I rebuild. There is a reason his contract doesnt get too expensive until the 2055 draft, when I had planned to start my rebuild.
If I am going to mortgage my future, which I started in like 2045, I had to go al out. You dont mortgage a future to half-ass it. That doesnt make any sense. I wouldnt trade all my picks and prospects and then piss away opportunities to make the best team I can, so getting Boys was worth spending a lot of fake money in my tanking years.
And if vesting options are going to be a thing, 30 games seemed fair. He has pitched less than 30 games in 40% of the seasons he has been in the WBL. I figured making him reach 30 was a fair metric.
Additionally, my plan from the get-go was to compete for a ship with my current crop, until they all died. That gives me about two more seasons, maybe one more if I get lucky. After that, I rebuild. There is a reason his contract doesnt get too expensive until the 2055 draft, when I had planned to start my rebuild.
If I am going to mortgage my future, which I started in like 2045, I had to go al out. You dont mortgage a future to half-ass it. That doesnt make any sense. I wouldnt trade all my picks and prospects and then piss away opportunities to make the best team I can, so getting Boys was worth spending a lot of fake money in my tanking years.
Lloyd Carr
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Additionally, he pitched a combined 73 games the past two years and he is in his 30's. I needed some injury protection for later in the contract.
jdlikewhoa
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Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Hmmmmmmnmmm
just Mongolloyd
30 games just looks like you have no intention of paying that final year. That's fine, but it should cost you $8m instead of maybe one start.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Injury protection would be like 20 GS or something. Guess we need a vesting rule now, thanks Lloyd.
Sounds like I need to look into vesting options since Boys took more than $4M less per year AAV. No rule needed, I'll add this to my repertoire!
jdlikewhoa
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Lloyd ur not fooling anyone.
How many rules is Lloyd going to have named after him in one offseason?
How many rules is Lloyd going to have named after him in one offseason?
Everyone vote for BOYS 4 ALL STAR in case lloyd tied incentives to that as well 
jdlikewhoa
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I offered something like $184/5, all guaranteed, so I have no idea how Lloyd pulled that off.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
This is the real problem, even if a commish makes it guaranteed or adds a buyout Lloyd used an exploit to win a bidding war.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Goddammit @Lloyd Carr
BOYS 4 ALL STAR!
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Maybe he didn't want to play in podunk False Bay when given the opportunity to play for a major market like Buffalo, New York.
Damn, I lost out on Carvahlo too? I was offering him a LUCRATIVE salary for 1 season to be a LOOGY, but looks like @Rutgers Mike nailed him down with a 2 year deal.
Without being able to see all sides of it, I don't really know how it works, but I suspect players favor a bid in hand and if you want to beat that you must come fairly significantly over the top. You can see that by Boys' demand of 5 years at $38M from me. I wasn't surprised to see Lloyd's offer was lower, but was surprised to see it that much lower.
Yeah, probably % and obviously it looks like a lot more with HAVE offers. Either way I'm excited for @Lloyd Carr to win him. BOYS gonna have a 5 ERA with his wheel chair brigade in the field.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
When do these greedy FA make their final decisions?
jdlikewhoa
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TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Well, I've got Obke hustling beejs off 95 South to match whoever is trying to outbid me on putting together the worst team money can buy.
jdlikewhoa
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It could be me. I've got offers out on some pretty bad players but I have no clue what team is yours.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
#TeamDickCheney'sAmerica
Sorry
Lloyd Carr
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I dont know what to tell youll.
When I made my offer he was asking for $25.5M per year for 5 years. Or roughly $128M.
I gave him $128M for four years, with a fifth year chance at $40M if he starts 30 games. He will make the same amount of money in 4 years that he wanted to make in 5. And a shot to make $40M more.
If you dont like the contract, I dont care.
When I made my offer he was asking for $25.5M per year for 5 years. Or roughly $128M.
I gave him $128M for four years, with a fifth year chance at $40M if he starts 30 games. He will make the same amount of money in 4 years that he wanted to make in 5. And a shot to make $40M more.
If you dont like the contract, I dont care.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Boys.
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
You tell em Lloyd
NML
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Feeling pretty good as we head into ST. Cairo upgraded their RF, depth, and hopefully the young bullpen improves. Finding a 4th and 5th starter would be nice too. If things fall into place, we could push for a .500 record. Very confident that we will meet the goal of "don't suck completely."
Continuing down our path of SEVERAL SEASONS OF SUCCESS
Continuing down our path of SEVERAL SEASONS OF SUCCESS
Did you you release him or withdraw his arb deal?
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
I don't really remember tbh. I know I messed it up so maybe I just typed in zero instead of hitting withdraw or something. Not the end of the world, maybe it'll help motivate some of my single A guys. "If THAT GUY can get 2mil a year, imagine what we could get if we try!"