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College Football Offseason Thread Presented by Joe Mixon's Punch-Out!!
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silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
another moral man is actually another anti-moral man
RedmondLonghorn
#LOB
Something lost in all of @whiteyc_77's cognitive dissonance on this issue is that @RedmongLonghorn had been MIA since the Seahawks started blowing chunks last September and he surfaces for this. Really?
Maybe he can dredge up @BuckeyesCooter while we're at it.
My stepping away had nothing to do with the Seahawks.
I have been lurking a bit since I stopped posting.
coogrfan
Well-Known Member
Which college football teams get the most out of their revenue?
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/5/6/11362094/ncaa-football-revenue-chart-profit
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/5/6/11362094/ncaa-football-revenue-chart-profit
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
How to get fired as a reporter: trademark a catchphrase the coach of the program you cover uses whenever a recruit signs.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
JLo hahahahaha
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
JLo hahahahaha
He's still Jeff from the block.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
Notre Dame is paying Charlie Weis more than Brian Kelly: http://espn.go.com/college-football...me-paid-charlie-weis-more-2014-15-brian-kelly
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
A man's gotta eat, right?
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
Cupcakes don't cost that much.
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
What's the deal with Baylor?
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
Baylor recruiting process
Hachiko
The Akita on Utopia
“The mission of Baylor University is to create a dominant football team that makes as much money as possible, regardless of the effect it may have on the welfare of our students, particularly women. We will foster an environment of rampant, violent criminality and turn a deaf ear to the cries of victims. We pledge to pervert our Christian beliefs in the name of football, populating our campus with predators who are allowed to act with impunity.”
Dear SMU,
Make way.
Signed,
The Hachiko.
P.S. And the truth with set you free. And that, my friend, is the bottom line.
Dear SMU,
Make way.
Signed,
The Hachiko.
P.S. And the truth with set you free. And that, my friend, is the bottom line.
Not surprisingly that guy works for the Chip Brown site
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
I think the most baffling thing about the Baylor situation is that 13 years ago one of their basketball players murdered a teammate among some other minor NCAA violations by the program and Bliss and the university tried to cover it all up. Guess they didn't learn.
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silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
That too.
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
They learned. This time it didn't get uncovered for 2 years. And Dave Bliss is coaching again.
And some of those tweets by the Baylor players are ridiculous.
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
I think the first reported assault was in 2009. The Waco PD has been in on it, too.
coogrfan
Well-Known Member
Baylor Is Full Of Shit
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Baylor acted like it would come clean and then didn’t actually do so. For about a minute, Baylor made it appear like it was going to open up about how its leaders downplayed or even covered up sexual assault on campus, especially when football players were the ones being accused. They sent out a press release, scheduled a conference call with reporters, and released two “reports.”
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If the reports’ purpose was to inform the public about what happened here, they failed; if their purpose was, as perhaps it may have been, to get right-thinking sportswriters issuing outraged tweets and columns about how Baylor had diligently investigated itself and found itself wanting, as laid bare in searing reports, they succeeded.
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Baylor acted like it would come clean and then didn’t actually do so. For about a minute, Baylor made it appear like it was going to open up about how its leaders downplayed or even covered up sexual assault on campus, especially when football players were the ones being accused. They sent out a press release, scheduled a conference call with reporters, and released two “reports.”
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If the reports’ purpose was to inform the public about what happened here, they failed; if their purpose was, as perhaps it may have been, to get right-thinking sportswriters issuing outraged tweets and columns about how Baylor had diligently investigated itself and found itself wanting, as laid bare in searing reports, they succeeded.
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Lightningwar
Administrator
Chris Peterson has to feel vindicated after yesterday.
Lightningwar
Administrator
Ole Piss self imposes scholarship reduction. 11 over 3 years in football. I guess Freeze got his wish and people found rules violations. The question is will this be enough for the NCAA?
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
As the Tunsil stuff came out like a month ago, they're going to have to increase the reduction when they finish investigating all of that, too.
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
Nah - SEC always get off easy
coogrfan
Well-Known Member
Answering to None
Many are calling for the NCAA to give Baylor the death penalty, and there's a very good argument that they deserve exactly that. The phrase "lack of institutional control" is being thrown around because that's been the dreaded label the NCAA has attached to programs that have committed egregious violations in the modern era. However, that phrase is woefully insufficient here. It implies some rogue coach slipping one past administrators until the higher-ups rode in on their white horse to save the day. Perhaps back when the phrase was coined, that's as nefarious of a ploy as the NCAA could fathom. This...is not what happened at Baylor. This situation was corruption that pervaded all levels of the institution, and even beyond. Baylor actively participated in this from the top on down, and managed to influence the Waco PD, the Baylor media, and the greater Baylor fanbase to similarly look the other way.
This all comes just over a decade after the Baylor basketball program had one of its players murder another player, and then attempted to frame the victim for the crime in an effort to cover it up. Amazingly enough, the Athletic Director then was the very same man it is presently, Ian McCaw. Baylor has placed him on probation. Just to recap, there has been a murder cover-up and multiple rape cover-ups in his tenure, and in Baylor's eyes, that's grounds for probation. The only differences this time are the sport and the even higher number of crimes involved. Baylor has not reformed itself in any way, and is only becoming more brazen. Interestingly enough, the NCAA determined the violations in the Baylor basketball scandal were "as serious as those in the SMU case". Yet here we are again, with Baylor behaving the exact same way now as they were then. In other words, Baylor is now roughly twice as dirty as the only Division I athletic program in the modern era to have received the death penalty. As such, what rationale is there to not give Baylor the death penalty? Your move, NCAA.
Full essay: The House That Rape Built.
Many are calling for the NCAA to give Baylor the death penalty, and there's a very good argument that they deserve exactly that. The phrase "lack of institutional control" is being thrown around because that's been the dreaded label the NCAA has attached to programs that have committed egregious violations in the modern era. However, that phrase is woefully insufficient here. It implies some rogue coach slipping one past administrators until the higher-ups rode in on their white horse to save the day. Perhaps back when the phrase was coined, that's as nefarious of a ploy as the NCAA could fathom. This...is not what happened at Baylor. This situation was corruption that pervaded all levels of the institution, and even beyond. Baylor actively participated in this from the top on down, and managed to influence the Waco PD, the Baylor media, and the greater Baylor fanbase to similarly look the other way.
This all comes just over a decade after the Baylor basketball program had one of its players murder another player, and then attempted to frame the victim for the crime in an effort to cover it up. Amazingly enough, the Athletic Director then was the very same man it is presently, Ian McCaw. Baylor has placed him on probation. Just to recap, there has been a murder cover-up and multiple rape cover-ups in his tenure, and in Baylor's eyes, that's grounds for probation. The only differences this time are the sport and the even higher number of crimes involved. Baylor has not reformed itself in any way, and is only becoming more brazen. Interestingly enough, the NCAA determined the violations in the Baylor basketball scandal were "as serious as those in the SMU case". Yet here we are again, with Baylor behaving the exact same way now as they were then. In other words, Baylor is now roughly twice as dirty as the only Division I athletic program in the modern era to have received the death penalty. As such, what rationale is there to not give Baylor the death penalty? Your move, NCAA.
Full essay: The House That Rape Built.
I'm hugely against rape being a thing that should never ever happen in society but you really think that this is worse than covering up and fostering the continuous exploitation of children.... Man I could argue equally appalling...but flat worse? Man that sounds more like being caught up in the latest news cycle.
silverwheels
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but do da baylor got da rape on there gloves?
I wouldn't say it's worse than Penn State. Both situations are shitty in different ways. One guy being allowed to molest children for decades or a systemic coverup of multiple sexual assaults by quite a few atholetes that involved the Waco PD and a smear campaign against the victims? That's like asking if you would rather die of HIV or cancer.
I wouldn't say it's worse than Penn State. Both situations are shitty in different ways. One guy being allowed to molest children for decades or a systemic coverup of multiple sexual assaults by quite a few atholetes that involved the Waco PD and a smear campaign against the victims? That's like asking if you would rather die of HIV or cancer.
coogrfan
Well-Known Member
Arguably worse? Abso-freaking-lutely.
All told, there have been eleven rapes reported against Briles' football players. Twelve assaults. Twenty-five total arrests. And that's just the incidents that have gone public, despite Baylor's best efforts.
coogrfan
Well-Known Member
As far as I'm aware the NCAA does not have the authority to kill an entire athletic program, but if it were up to me I would do so. The level of corruption runs so deep that nothing less will suffice.
This is not as bad as Penn state because PSU people are much more obnoxious in general. Irrelevant program and they still defend child rapist accessories. The program that brought you Matt mcgloin needs to persevere fuck these kid rapist victims.
coogrfan
Well-Known Member
Disgusting, but not more disgusting than attempting to frame a murder victim in order to avoid NCAA sanctions or intimidating multiple rape victims to keep them from seeking to prosecute football players.
As horrific as the PSU scandal was, it was one incident. BU has two in a little over a decade.