2065 Off Season Thread

[fignuts]

5th (3,500+) in hits and 3rd in HRs (almost 700) isn't enough for Cotterell? Lulz

Robles is a career .325 hitter with 513 HR.

You don't factor in defense when submiting ur ballot?

 

[doh]

Of course you do to a point but who cares when someone hits almost 700 HRs?

 

[Orlando]

Cotterell put up sustained stats into his late 30's, but didn't play the field after age 29.
Robles put up monster seasons through age 27/28. Then became a liability in the OF.

Those would be the others under consideration. Maybe Roddis as well. Erryone else don't live up to the HoF metrics in the sidebar.

Kiene and Torres though?

 

[Orlando]

To me Henny's bat was good enough to ignore the fact he was a DH most his career. He also played for Borg his entire career and was the team captain for three ships. That's obviously a bias for me, but there is more to the HoF thanks JAWs haha.

I'm sure Weber won't get much love either, but he was an elite defender at one point and an MVP with 500+ HR.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

Why would i bid kiene up when i have 3 CF's better than he is?

To be the heel we all deserve.

 

[fignuts]

Kiene and Torres though?

Kiene had 3 seasons of 8+ WAR. 4 others with 5+ WAR with a few 4+ sprinkled in. Led the league in BB/9 4x.
Torres is borderline. Still effective through 36. Posting 4 WAR seasons continually.

Both with a career 3.5 or so ERA. Each earning a pitching wizard award.

Why shouldn't they be considered to you guys?

 

[NML]

I think the odd part is that you are giving votes for the longevity pitchers but not the longevity bats

 

[fignuts]

It's an offensive driven league. Of course the pitcher should hold more sway for longevity.

 

[fignuts]

Tell ya what, will retract my ballot since my viewpoints are skewed to the majority. My b

 

[NML]

Vote for whoever you want, man.

I don't get the "offensive driven league" comment though

 

[Mr. Radpants]

Fig trippin

 

[Yankee151]

Carrier should just be auto in, if he isnt no one is

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[OU11]

I haven't kept up with it- were there any issues that still had to be dealt with @OU11 ?

we'll find out, i doubt it but you never know

 

[Travis7401]

I won't vote for any of those bums. It's worse than the actual baseball hall of fame.

 

[Orlando]

Tell ya what, will retract my ballot since my viewpoints are skewed to the majority. My b

This is just debate man. Vote for whoever you want. I don't put much stock into pitcher WAR. I thought Naz was on par with Kiene and Torres, that's why I asked.

 

[Wolfman21]

I voted for the most folks this year as I've ever voted for. I think I put 7 or 8 in. Usually im only at like 3 or 4

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

I won't vote for any of those bums. It's worse than the actual baseball hall of fame.

I only vote for and extend BUMS.

 

[fignuts]

This is just debate man. Vote for whoever you want. I don't put much stock into pitcher WAR. I thought Naz was on par with Kiene and Torres, that's why I asked.

Wasn't you that drove the issue. NML and dohseph continue to run counter to whatever it is I bring up, regardless of topic. Dunno if it's their prerogative or what.

Bit thin skinned today from loading up the car and triple checking to make sure nothing imperative is left at home. So, in hindsight, shouldn't have even brought up whom GM Fig Nuts is voting for.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

Just don't release errybody and it'll be ok babby.

 

[NML]

Wasn't you that drove the issue. NML and dohseph continue to run counter to whatever it is I bring up, regardless of topic. Dunno if it's their prerogative or what.

Bit thin skinned today from loading up the car and triple checking to make sure nothing imperative is left at home. So, in hindsight, shouldn't have even brought up whom GM Fig Nuts is voting for.

I don't even disagree with ur ballot haha. I was just pointing out why others were questioning it.

Glad you brought it up, not much else to talk about this sim (which is why I threw out the "highest paid FA" question)

 

[doh]

FWIW, I'd put Torres in. I think he was very good for a long time (7th all-time WAR) and had a peak worthy of a Cy Young. He also had 14 post-season wins with a 2.74 ERA.

 

[fignuts]

Looks like I misconstrued you alls posts then. Haha. My apologies! We strong fam.

Don't worry Tony. No thoughts of a jihad strike upon the WBL.

 

[Orlando]

FWIW, I'd put Torres in. I think he was very good for a long time (7th all-time WAR) and had a peak worthy of a Cy Young. He also had 14 post-season wins with a 2.74 ERA.

Torres over Naz?

 

[NML]

So when will we switch to 18? Do we need to talk rule changes with the new features?

 

[doh]

I'd put him before Naz. 1000 more IP, 33 more WARs won and a similar ERA (3.48 vs 3.51). 50 more wins. Plus Naz playoff numbers are bad. But to me Naz deserves consideration.

 

[Orlando]

So when will we switch to 18? Do we need to talk rule changes with the new features?

Talk about it. What features?

 

[Yankee151]

I want to help set up a WBC, otherwise i dont care

 

[Yankee151]

So far this offseason I've sold two good players for the low low price of bad players, let's keep it up!

Anyone want Farrusco? Consistent power guy, amazing defensive catcher, 3-4 WAR

 

[Orlando]

I'd put him before Naz. 1000 more IP, 33 more WARs won and a similar ERA (3.48 vs 3.51). 50 more wins. Plus Naz playoff numbers are bad. But to me Naz deserves consideration.

I don't disagree. I'm obviously biased and I probably give Naz credit because he was a SP with 35 stamina. I think he was unique and pitched well until he was like 40 in the pen. The longest winning streak ever and that nearly undefeated season were pretty cool. He lost his first start that year and went on to go 22-0 after with what I think was one of the best seasons ever. Probably not enough, but fun player.

 

[NML]

Yeah WBC was the main thing. I don't know about any others.

Anyone know how it will affect players? Do we have options with that?

Mostly I'm interested to know if it will change development and/or cause injuries (either directly or indirectly), or if it's just a sim for entertainment.

 

[fignuts]

Yeah WBC was the main thing. I don't know about any others.

Anyone know how it will affect players? Do we have options with that?

Mostly I'm interested to know if it will change development and/or cause injuries (either directly or indirectly), or if it's just a sim for entertainment.

Haven't touched 18 yet. But from reading the subreddit, the WBC replaces ST when it comes around. So it'd be similar with dev and injury risk.

 

[fignuts]

So far this offseason I've sold two good players for the low low price of bad players, let's keep it up!

Anyone want Farrusco? Consistent power guy, amazing defensive catcher, 3-4 WAR

Have a lank to this defensive wizkid?

 

[Orlando]

We turn off injuries for ST, so we could do the same for WBC. I think you can create your own international tournament as well and we could run that prior to ST to make those FA sims more interesting. @Yankee151 have you looked into that?

 

[Yankee151]

I haven't really but I can. NML brings up a good point about development so I'd want to check that out too

here figs http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com//game/lgreports/players/player_11945.html

 

[fignuts]

here figs http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com//game/lgreports/players/player_11945.html

Bout same age as Mitichkin. Damn. Was hoping he was 23/24.
And how in the hell did he garner a 10.6M arb number? Haha

 

[Orlando]

4x all star and ROY. Chicks dig the long ball.

 

[doh]

Other thing about WBC -- will it be totally done by the computer (like the All-Star game) or can we control teams? Maybe we could do a draft of who manages which teams?

 

[fignuts]

3x all star and ROY.

That splains it. Danke

 

[doh]

3x all star and ROY.

+ at least 30 HR every year from the catcher position. Guy is damn good.

League leader in the last three years was Fernandez (39,42,39) so 30 HRs is a ton.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

3x all star and ROY. Chicks did the long ball.

Catchers in general have high ARBs. At least all of the ones I have had.

 

[fignuts]

Other thing about WBC -- will it be totally done by the computer (like the All-Star game) or can we control teams? Maybe we could do a draft of who manages which teams?

Take this with a grain assault, but wanna say it is wholly AI driven.

 

[Orlando]

That splains it. Danke

+ at least 30 HR every year from the catcher position. Guy is damn good.

Yeah. My bad too. 4 time all star.

 

[Yankee151]

I also couldve extendes him at like 5M per a couple years ago but I was a little worried he would fall off in power. Still going strong tho.

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[Karl Hungus]

+ at least 30 HR every year from the catcher position. Guy is damn good.

League leader in the last three years was Fernandez (39,42,39) so 30 HRs is a ton.

He's also blind. A season with a .177 average is definitely in his future.

 

[Orlando]

I also couldve extendes him at like 5M per a couple years ago but I was a little worried he would fall off in power. Still going strong tho.

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Yeah. I'm happy he panned out for you. His power is real. High avoid K and high power is an interesting combo.

 

[Orlando]

He's also blind. A season with a .177 average is definitely in his future.

What does Eye have to do with average?

 

[Karl Hungus]

What does Eye have to do with average?

Nothing, maybe I should have said .220 obp instead.

 

[Orlando]

I don't see it. He's got unique ratings. I'd buy it with worse avoid k.

 

[Yankee151]

Yeah IDK. He never really walks but he just hits bombs, which is about as much as you can expect from a catcher.

 

[Mr. Radpants]

Naz is a shoe in, y'all crazy