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THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
We were given less of a chance to advance in 2002. Not saying we will advance but we've certainly had longer odds in the WC.
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USA National Soccer (M & W) Thread
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NML
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I don't know why y'all are hating on the pavel/travis faggotry of negativity. I assume that was the only reason we had our best qualification cycle in history.
Plus, let's be real, we aren't on the same level as these teams in our group. Germany's last two games were draws with Cameroon AND Poland - yeah, the same Poland that hosted the Euro's in 2012 - plus they only have one true striker on the roster and he's 35, so you know he's good. Then you've got Portugal who also managed to draw with Greece, who are heavy favorites to win it all this year. Finally, Ghana - I mean, here's a team who has lost three straight matches, hasn't scored a goal in four, and we still don't belong on the same field as them. THAT'S how good they are.
0 points, dunno why we are even going.
Plus, let's be real, we aren't on the same level as these teams in our group. Germany's last two games were draws with Cameroon AND Poland - yeah, the same Poland that hosted the Euro's in 2012 - plus they only have one true striker on the roster and he's 35, so you know he's good. Then you've got Portugal who also managed to draw with Greece, who are heavy favorites to win it all this year. Finally, Ghana - I mean, here's a team who has lost three straight matches, hasn't scored a goal in four, and we still don't belong on the same field as them. THAT'S how good they are.
0 points, dunno why we are even going.
I personally think we should just scrap the whole thing and send the National Championship winning Florida State Seminoles to represent us on the pitch. At least we'd know we strong then.
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DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
I would imagine the reason is that all of those teams are filled with proven international talent. Whereas our proven international talent consists of Howard, Bradley, and Dempsey. Maybe you could add in Jones to that list.
I don't think it's hopeless, but I'd stay a 4th place finish or 1998 type tournament is more likely than us advancing out of the group.
3 points is "dream big" to me as it is better than the honest most likely scenario (1 point). To me, 4 points or more is utter lunacy far beyond "dream big." You seem to think we will do better than 3 points, so put ur money on it. I'm not changing my story, 1 point is my pessimistic prediction, 3 points is my optimistic prediction.
I don't know what the vegas line is for how many points we get... but I know we have a low chance of advancing, so I'd say the "line," if they even do such betting for group stage point totals, would be 2.5 or 3.
I don't know what the vegas line is for how many points we get... but I know we have a low chance of advancing, so I'd say the "line," if they even do such betting for group stage point totals, would be 2.5 or 3.
Nah, b. I seem to think we'll get between 1-3 points . U the one giving reasons why we are the best team in the group or some shit. 
How about this: 3 points is the BTT line. Less than 3 points I win. More than 3 points you win. 3 points is a push. I think that correctly states my argument. $50 is fine with me.
How about this: 3 points is the BTT line. Less than 3 points I win. More than 3 points you win. 3 points is a push. I think that correctly states my argument. $50 is fine with me.
I didn't say dream crazy, I said dream big. I think 3 points is dreaming big. Take it or leave it, brother.
The soccer fans at work are giving me a 3.5 line, so I'm even giving you the Utopia discount with the push @ 3 offer.
The soccer fans at work are giving me a 3.5 line, so I'm even giving you the Utopia discount with the push @ 3 offer.
Sounds good to me:
Less than 3 points, Travis wins
More than 3 points, NML wins
Exactly 3 points, Kill Yankee
Orangebird
Premier League Champs
http://www.skybet.com/football/world-cup/event/16565133
If there's anything else you'll want to wager on here's a bunch of different odds on the USA from Sky.
If there's anything else you'll want to wager on here's a bunch of different odds on the USA from Sky.
NML
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I'm not sure if we are advancing, getting four points, or making any kind of predication. Ur the one in here spouting how awful everyone is, so I just mentioned/mocked the other teams performances to say we aren't trying the impossible here. Then you got ur panties in a wad so you tried to use faulty logic to strut at me, thinking I'd back down from a bet, so I called you on ur shit.
I'm not sure if we will advance or not - half of soccer is luck, so you just never know.
I'm not sure if we will advance or not - half of soccer is luck, so you just never know.
I don't even think luck is gonna help us if that mongoloid Chandler starts. I stand by my claim that 3 points is dreaming big and 0-2 points is the more likely outcome. I have not changed that position since I first stated it. If you think we are going to do better than 3 points in this group, you are welcome to put ur money where ur mouth is any time you want.
What post did I edit? I don't think I edited anything brotha.
And how did I get my panties in a wad? Ur the one who got all pissy pants. Calm'r than you are.
NML accuses me of backtracking, then won't even make his own prediction because soccer too much about luck. GJGE 
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I kind of regret calling Chandler a mongoloid now, because it is too close to the mark.
So? Do you care if the hooker gets a yeast infection a few days later? That's why you hit it and quit it with Deadman, instead of turning him into your whiny, sickly wife.
NML
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This post initially said
With something about dream real big being 4. Which is why I made my post about you predicting us to get 1 point.
With something about dream real big being 4. Which is why I made my post about you predicting us to get 1 point.
NML
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And this post initially just said
You've added the entire meat of ur post with edit
You've added the entire meat of ur post with edit
Well I sometimes do that if I don't feel like completing a TM esque triple post, so fair enough. I still don't see how you think I changed my stance or backtracked. From the beginning I said 3 points was dream big and 1 point is the most likely single outcome.
I either triple post or flag my edited post with a giant "***EDIT: blah, blah, blah" so you'll can see that I've changed or added to my post, and can respond accordingly. None of this cryptic, slip-it-in-under-the-radar nonsense.
Everyone marries milo. He has a soothing charlie brown voice
I'm not slipping anything in under the radar, NML is just backtracking because he realized my claim wasn't at all as "ludicrous" as he was trying to make it out to be. 3 points is "dream big" in this group, brotha, and that sky sports betting deal largely backs me up with, as they have us twice as likely to finish with from 0-3 points as they do finish 4-9 points. I'm not even making fun of the US here either, it is just a tough draw and it always has been.
As a fan, I'd honestly be very happy with 3 points and I wouldn't even hope for 4 points. Honestly the only way I'd be disappointed is if we finished with 0 or 1 points... then I'd think JK would have some questions to answer about leaving one of the best players at home.
As a fan, I'd honestly be very happy with 3 points and I wouldn't even hope for 4 points. Honestly the only way I'd be disappointed is if we finished with 0 or 1 points... then I'd think JK would have some questions to answer about leaving one of the best players at home.
In real life yeah, but in this case we have two versions of the most likely scenario. Leach has 3 and travis has 1. Do you even friendly wager bro?
not necessarily because it is mathematically less likely to get multiple ties (ie 2 points is less likely than 1 or 3 no matter how good the team is). The reason there isn't an over/under on points is that it doesn't break down well into a betting model with equal action on both side with so few potential outcomes. It is easier for the casino to offer lines on each outcome.... but sky has 3 points listed as the "most likely outcome" for the US. The second most likely outcome is 1 point.
Not if travis is challenging.