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Let's talk about Bish, babby
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Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
And by the way, I set things up the way they are for reasons. I didn't just do it flippantly. Tried everything from a majority to 2/3rds to 3/4ths to 3/5ths a person. Everything but unanimous caused a massive shitstorm. If everyone doesn't agree we don't do it. We've never really had a retroactive thing like this, I think we had one where we changed the extension but not void. That was doh too 
But the change was minor (guaranteed TOs). This whole thing is just stupid, you should have gone with a rule instead of a retroactive punishment. These always end in bitchfits and cause the league to get all wrapped up in severe petulitis. Cookies at 900 degrees burnt to a crisp. That's why you're the worst, you go about things in a way to cause the most shit every time you have an issue.
If something happens that needs to be fixed, fix it so it won't happen again. Don't go back and change things. This is an online baseball game, it isn't important. It's just for fun, I know you're an engineer so you don't work like that but just woosah a bit and propose a solution for the future. Nobody would argue with that, and it would pass unanimously.
But the change was minor (guaranteed TOs). This whole thing is just stupid, you should have gone with a rule instead of a retroactive punishment. These always end in bitchfits and cause the league to get all wrapped up in severe petulitis. Cookies at 900 degrees burnt to a crisp. That's why you're the worst, you go about things in a way to cause the most shit every time you have an issue.
If something happens that needs to be fixed, fix it so it won't happen again. Don't go back and change things. This is an online baseball game, it isn't important. It's just for fun, I know you're an engineer so you don't work like that but just woosah a bit and propose a solution for the future. Nobody would argue with that, and it would pass unanimously.
All this taught me was we (Well, I since I will be the one who will likely maintain it) should probably keep a seperate traded draft pick sheet just in case.
From now on if I see a trade that has a double traded pick in it, I'm not doing it. If it's the trade deadline, tough shit. If the other Os, don't care then whatever. I guess hope Orlando does the deadline day.
From now on if I see a trade that has a double traded pick in it, I'm not doing it. If it's the trade deadline, tough shit. If the other Os, don't care then whatever. I guess hope Orlando does the deadline day.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Is the irony of the guy who curates the traded picks list double trading a pick lost on everyone else?
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Already doubting my pick trading tracking?
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
Is the irony of you going on and on this as someone whose double traded picks twice lost on you?
I don't think NML's rule idea on losing a pick a bad idea but I don't really think it's that big of a deal. And that adds more work for whoever wants to monitor it now. People have done it all the time and usually the person slighted out of the pick gets better picks as Lloyd has pointed out.
As for pre-arb deals... (can of worms opening)... I think the game is fine with it now. The AI is much better. Whatever version the "rule" was made was the AI was bad.
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If you guys want to give it to someone, I can be the old vet. You just need to teach me how to do the draft and you're free. As long as you and @Orlando are willing to give insight when something may @Brick up, then I'm fine with having someone else to sim.
I have an issue with people giving me shit like I meant to screw up shit. Just like I'm sure doh isn't appreciative of people making it seem he did it on purpose. That's the stuff that stresses me out and not enjoy this league. If people keep that in mind, I'm fine. If people want to be pricks for the sake of being a prick to me, then whatever. I'm getting better at letting that slide off my back.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Measure twice cut once my South Canada friend.
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
you missed out on a good opportunity for a "bish knocked down da towaz!!" option
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Sound advice.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
HOLY SHIT AN IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE QUOTE?!?!?!?!
That's largely why I quit. I'm fine doing the draft. I'm saying if people think the rules in place are so shitty they can take over commissioner duties and change whatever they like. I know you used to not be a huge fan, maybe you've warmed up to where you don't care, the constant bitching about things is what drove me nuts. Change the rules then, get your unanimous votes. I'd even abstain so I wouldn't be the one to take it out.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Nope. Did you just get here?
I think we got a nice groove going to be honest. The every other week plus me making @OU11 do the draft works for me.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
This is the only solution that makes any sense. Outside of the penny stock enthusiasts that are convinced their 7th round SPREADSHEET WARRIORS are one good series in AA away from putting up a -0.5 WBL WAR does anyone see any real value in adding a 4th, 5th or 7th round pick to a trade? Can we also cut the draft at 10 rounds instead of the current 15? Anybody not picked just becomes a FA.
Lloyd Carr
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Sorry, we have to keep later round pick trades. Otherwise Peder never gon make the HoG.
Well we are never going to get unanimous votes because there are at least 3 deadbeats who I assume we would count as Nays. I don't remember voting for the contracts stuff but that was awhile ago. Don't see how that would be unanimous either
When I almost quit in January, @Orlando and @Travis7401 told me not to do something I didn't enjoy then the next day I would start talking to them about building my team. It was then I realized that I still liked OOTP and the WBL. I just needed to take breaks from here/Nutopia in general. The alternating weeks with @Orlando has helped so I'd be fine with someone like that.
Just seems like you guys are giving the "Well if you guys don't like it, you can be commish" post a few more times each time there's something brought up. I've just never cared for the retort so figured I'd give you guys the out if you wanted it.
At the same time, I'd also just like to quit so I don't have to do any more of @TonyGin&Juice's braindead trades
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
Well quitting is against the rules, so....
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Why you being so mean? Without my trades this league is a bore and at least 2/3 of the problems we have go away. Do you really want this league to go back to the days when Miami/Key West was run with competence and the percentage of posts referencing some combination of Andrew "Dice" Clay/Cocaine/NEDA/PokerBrat/Al Davis/AJ Preller was 0%?
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Peder is going to make the HOG because a vote for Peder is a vote against Wolfman which is a vote for America
Hush
Thought about it...got bored
Well those arent nays, they're abstains. So it isnt necessarily all yays it's just the ones voting. When i was running it i think that's how it was. I cant remember, but i dont think i counted non votes as nays.
I like ootp, but i dont like having to deal with it daily. It's a fun side activity to me now so i cant scrap all the time like i used to and still enjoy it. That's why i got burnt out, had nothing to do with the game itself
Wooly
Well-Known Member
Says the guy who concerns himself with a league in which he does not play.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
Is he still playing in the league? Not that I am aware of. I will apologize if he still is, but he is not listed as a current manager, and I don't see him actively involved either. Why bother commenting about a league you used to play in?You get into a lot of things you don't know anything about
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
You guys are the worst.
NML
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I have a reel hard time believing we ever had a unanimous decision on anything, but when ur a QUITTER you miss some things so I can't say for sure.
But that's a stupid fucking rule. Especially as we head into 17 where there's likely new areas that need adjusting or they'll be exploited.
Also put me in the camp that's tired of hearing the "if you don't like it, you run it" line. It's especially tiresome because every time it's said, one or two people offer to help out.
I have no desire for the O's to get supplanted - it's certainly a thankless gig and you'll do a great job. But quit holding it over our heads. Others have offered to help out to give you a break/let you retire.
But that's a stupid fucking rule. Especially as we head into 17 where there's likely new areas that need adjusting or they'll be exploited.
Also put me in the camp that's tired of hearing the "if you don't like it, you run it" line. It's especially tiresome because every time it's said, one or two people offer to help out.
I have no desire for the O's to get supplanted - it's certainly a thankless gig and you'll do a great job. But quit holding it over our heads. Others have offered to help out to give you a break/let you retire.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
So you gave up on trying to get doh to quit so you've moved on to the Os? Stop it.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Please put me in charge of something.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Dublin available if any of you halfwits run off the Os
and the whole point of unanimous is that if we can't all agree that a change is good for the league, we don't do it. again this wasn't some random shit I threw together. You guys act like I made this league in a day, we can go back to 2/3rds and when a really big decision comes up and it's a tight vote, you're going to get 1/3rd of the league on the edge of leaving from that alone.
It isn't worth it, but go on down that road again if you want.
It isn't worth it, but go on down that road again if you want.
You shut your whore mouth.
