Jesus Christ...
Michigan, please flush this fucker down the toilet
Michigan, please flush this fucker down the toilet
The rule has more to do with pace of play than player safety.Fully agree with Mak, but just going to add that this magnifies the dumbass helmet rule. Are you telling me a player can't put their helmet back on during the 40 second play clock?
Wolverines coach Brady Hoke was asked after the game why Morris was left in the game when he appeared to be hurt.
"I don't know if he had a concussion or not, I don't know that," Hoke said. "Shane's a pretty competitive, tough kid. And Shane wanted to be the quarterback, and so, believe me, if he didn't want to be he would've come to the sideline or stayed down."
Asked if he saw his sophomore quarterback looking "wobbly" after the hit, Hoke said he did not.
"I did not," he replied. "I didn't see it. I can only answer for me."
It is there to slow the pace down?The rule has more to do with pace of play than player safety.
The player safety bit is the part where players can't chase a play without their helmet on.
No. I think part of it was to keep teams from slowing the pace down via "losing" their helmets. Wasn't the rule implemented after the 2011 season? I remember the talks coming in the latter half of the 2011 season, when there was discussion of teams trying to slow other teams down via "losing" their helmets mid/after play.It is there to slow the pace down?
I thought it was implemented so players would wear their helmets properly
This is the main reason, at least the only one that makes sense. also if you get hit hard enough to knock the helmet off you should probably be checked out.I thought it was implemented so players would wear their helmets properly
The color guy is a retard. Shoulder to the chest. "You gotta call that targeting and eject him" orly?
Are helmets popping off as much? I dont watch as much as i used to, but it doesnt seem like it happens every play now. Given the concussion hoopla, if a helmet pops off due to that much pressure they should get taken off to get checked out.Yeah, the bogus excuse they gave was that players weren't strapping up properly, but that's asinine. The helmets and chin straps are DESIGNED to come off under certain types of pressure, so the force is absorbed by the helmet/straps instead of your neck. It's ridiculous. They thought guys (especially guys with big dreads that make the helmets slide off easier) were getting too much face time, if you ask me.
And lol @ Hoke saying he didn't see him wobble. Well then why the fuck did he put Gardner in?
So nobody knows anything. It is just a common sense rule given the concussion PR deal the last few years. Regardless it seems so much better now that helmets dont come off all the time.But how many concussions (or any other injuries for that matter) were ever attributable to guys losing their helmets? I'm not sure I've ever seen one. The kind of thing that rips your helmet off is somebody grabbing it or because the chin straps come off due to pressure, not the same kind of contact that causes concussions.
I think the "player safety" argument was a post hoc justification for an utterly indefensible and stupid rule. I don't have any data for how often helmets come off (and I bet the NCAA rules committee doesn't either), but I don't think anybody can say it's shown to be a boon the player safety.
Brick.gif“The safety of our student-athletes is always our top priority,” Hoke stated. “We generally never discuss the specifics of a student-athlete’s medical care, but Shane Morris was removed from yesterday’s game against Minnesota after further aggravating an injury to his leg that he sustained earlier in the contest. He was evaluated by our experienced athletic trainers and team physicians, and we’re confident proper medical decisions were made. The University of Michigan has a distinguished group of Certified Athletic Trainers and team physicians who are responsible for determining whether or not a player is physically able to play. Our coaches have no influence or authority to make determinations if or when an injured player returns to competition. The health and welfare of our student-athletes is and will continue to be a top priority.”
“The safety of our student-athletes is always our top priority,” Hoke stated. “We generally never discuss the specifics of a student-athlete’s medical care, but Shane Morris was removed from yesterday’s game against Minnesota after further aggravating an injury to his leg that he sustained earlier in the contest. He was evaluated by our experienced athletic trainers and team physicians, and we’re confident proper medical decisions were made. The University of Michigan has a distinguished group of Certified Athletic Trainers and team physicians who are responsible for determining whether or not a player is physically able to play. Our coaches have no influence or authority to make determinations if or when an injured player returns to competition. The health and welfare of our student-athletes is and will continue to be a top priority.”
"Shane Morris was removed from yesterday’s game against Minnesota after further aggravating an injury to his leg that he sustained earlier in the contest."
Then why was he put back in the game?
#8 is the third string QB. #16 is being redshirted, so you don't want him in the game for one snap. But, #8 was trying to get on the field, but couldn't find his helmet. I'm not even joking. Just sums up Michigan's program perfectly at this point.
Also this:
As Ball State's coach in 2004, Hoke was reprimanded by his athletic director after a player was frostbitten during a "disciplinary workout in subzero temperatures," according to an Associated Press article at the time.
Also reprimanded was Aaron Wellman, Michigan's current strength and conditioning coach.
Chris Jackson, a redshirt freshman wide receiver, suffered frostbite to "several fingers" during a 40-minute, 6 a.m. workout on January 31 of that year. Jackson and teammates carried a 25-pound sandbag up and down Scheumann Stadium, athletic director Bubba Cunningham told the AP. Associate professor of geography David Arnold told the AP the temperature at the start of the workout was -7 degrees Fahrenheit, with a wind chill of -12 degrees.
You know, [Gardner is] beat up like everybody is, and that's when he was limping a little bit, and I said I don't want to see you limp. I said every guy out here could limp. We've got to go play, and he did that. I'm proud of him.