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Beardown About...Rose Bowl #0
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Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
Those Big 16 divisions suck. Even more unbalanced then the ACC.
silverwheels
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my b
Don't worry, I already have a tentative agreement with the big xii to expand. You guys can let everyone know your inside source says this is all but a done deal.
silverwheels
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can't really help it if you want to do it geographically.
Switzer: OU, OSU, Texas Tech, Colorado State, BYU, Iowa State, TCU, Tulane
Royal: Texas, (fuck) Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, West Virginia, Memphis, Cincinnati, UCF
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
Fuck Geography. I do think there is an issue preserving some of the other rivalries doe.
I'd probably do something like dis
Trog division/ Mong division
Texas/ Oklahoma
Texas Tech/ Oklahoma State
TCU/ Baylor
Kansas/ Kansas State
Colorado State/ Iowa State
West Virginia/ UCF
BYU/ Tulane
Memphis/ Cincinnati
I'd probably do something like dis
Trog division/ Mong division
Texas/ Oklahoma
Texas Tech/ Oklahoma State
TCU/ Baylor
Kansas/ Kansas State
Colorado State/ Iowa State
West Virginia/ UCF
BYU/ Tulane
Memphis/ Cincinnati
silverwheels
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oh God, mormons in the French Quarter every other year? 
BearDownUofA
Festizio
Big 16 wouldn't be hard:
North
WVU, Cincy, BYU, KU, KSU, ISU, OU, Okie St
South
UT, TTU, BU, TCU, Tulane, UCF, Memphis (this is pushing it but Mizzou is in the SEC East for God's sake), USF or something
Big 12:
North
WVU, Cincy, KU, KSU, ISU, BYU
South
UT, TCU, TTU, BU, OU, Okie St
Kind of unbalanced but whatever. DONE DEAL
North
WVU, Cincy, BYU, KU, KSU, ISU, OU, Okie St
South
UT, TTU, BU, TCU, Tulane, UCF, Memphis (this is pushing it but Mizzou is in the SEC East for God's sake), USF or something
Big 12:
North
WVU, Cincy, KU, KSU, ISU, BYU
South
UT, TCU, TTU, BU, OU, Okie St
Kind of unbalanced but whatever. DONE DEAL
Iron
Well-Known Member
That's actually a pretty good bowl game in my opinion, matchup wise.
Not seeing Colorado State on your lists... I already told you it was as good as done.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
Big 12 is pretty good as is. Big Ten should be a warning sign for further conference expansion. Instead of seeing Nebraska and Iowa every year, Michigan now gets to play Rutgers and Maryland! I'm pretty sure Michigan sees Wisconsin (and Nebraska) 2 of every 8 years from now on, except it will be 6 years where they don't play followed by 2 years where they do. 
Attendance is starting to be an issue at a lot of schools. Are you, as an Oklahoma fan, excited to play Cincinnati every year instead of Texas Tech? I mean, as a Michigan fan, I'd much rather play Iowa than Maryland or Rutgers. Sure, Iowa might be shitty, but at least we've played them something like 70 times before. Winning at Kinnick will always be cool - fucking pink locker room. Winning at where ever the fuck Rutgers plays is a giant meh.
Attendance is starting to be an issue at a lot of schools. Are you, as an Oklahoma fan, excited to play Cincinnati every year instead of Texas Tech? I mean, as a Michigan fan, I'd much rather play Iowa than Maryland or Rutgers. Sure, Iowa might be shitty, but at least we've played them something like 70 times before. Winning at Kinnick will always be cool - fucking pink locker room. Winning at where ever the fuck Rutgers plays is a giant meh.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Big 12 is pretty good as is. Big Ten should be a warning sign for further conference expansion. Instead of seeing Nebraska and Iowa every year, Michigan now gets to play Rutgers and Maryland! I'm pretty sure Michigan sees Wisconsin (and Nebraska) 2 of every 8 years from now on, except it will be 6 years where they don't play followed by 2 years where they do.
Attendance is starting to be an issue at a lot of schools. Are you, as an Oklahoma fan, excited to play Cincinnati every year instead of Texas Tech? I mean, as a Michigan fan, I'd much rather play Iowa than Maryland or Rutgers. Sure, Iowa might be shitty, but at least we've played them something like 70 times before. Winning at Kinnick will always be cool - fucking pink locker room. Winning at where ever the fuck Rutgers plays is a giant meh.
Every conference will over expand. Then, at some point like 10-15 years from now, and teams will break off leaving eight eight-team conferences and there will be EIGHT TRUE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS playing for one national championship.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
That's probably the end game. I just hope Michigan is good enough then to go to a power 8 conference.
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
Big 12 is pretty good as is. Big Ten should be a warning sign for further conference expansion. Instead of seeing Nebraska and Iowa every year, Michigan now gets to play Rutgers and Maryland! I'm pretty sure Michigan sees Wisconsin (and Nebraska) 2 of every 8 years from now on, except it will be 6 years where they don't play followed by 2 years where they do.
Attendance is starting to be an issue at a lot of schools. Are you, as an Oklahoma fan, excited to play Cincinnati every year instead of Texas Tech? I mean, as a Michigan fan, I'd much rather play Iowa than Maryland or Rutgers. Sure, Iowa might be shitty, but at least we've played them something like 70 times before. Winning at Kinnick will always be cool - fucking pink locker room. Winning at where ever the fuck Rutgers plays is a giant meh.
Neither Cincy nor Texas Tech are exciting. Lubbock is basically the hellmouth and Kingsbury is a douche. Cincinnati would at least be a decent road trip. It's not even remotely ideal for the Big 12 to expand with a bunch of mid-majors (and it's not like some schools don't have their positives, but overall, meh), but if it's not going to dissolve and 10 teams is going to be a detriment then there's no other choice. I'd kill to have the original Big 12 lineup back. It's easy to place the blame on Texas for what happened, but a lot of schools are at fault for various reasons; the biggest being money, obviously. OU's leadership couldn't bear the thought of being separated from Texas or leaving OSU behind for the SEC. The Pac would only take OU if Texas came, but they're not budging. The B1G laughs at OU's academics, which are actually very solid, but they're not a member of the AAU or CIC.
ZeekLTK
Well-Known Member
Right, Boise usually beats Oregon when they play.
silverwheels
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The original proposal of the Pac-10 adding Colorado, OU, OSU, Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech (Fuck Baylor) would have been dope.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
8 conferences of 8 teams is 64 teams (8 x 8 = 64 because it just does). That's your FBS. Everyone else becomes FCS by default.
I see that but it's kind of shitty if you just say oh Vanderbilt you get to stay cuz you were in the sec or wake forest or whatever. Gotta thin the herd. But sone of these shit schools in power 5s need to go.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
silverwheels
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manifest destiny, bitch. we takin' it. fuck baylor
Brick
Well-Known Member
well, yeah.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2014/leader/827/player/split01/category02/sort08.html
might be the worst group of major conference qbs of all time.
take out the ohio state qbs and connor cook and any of those schools would have loved a fifth year of grad school eligibility for reggie ball. ohio state's fraternity champ intramural flag football team has a better qb than wisconsin.
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
Big 12 is pretty good as is. Big Ten should be a warning sign for further conference expansion. Instead of seeing Nebraska and Iowa every year, Michigan now gets to play Rutgers and Maryland! I'm pretty sure Michigan sees Wisconsin (and Nebraska) 2 of every 8 years from now on, except it will be 6 years where they don't play followed by 2 years where they do.
Attendance is starting to be an issue at a lot of schools. Are you, as an Oklahoma fan, excited to play Cincinnati every year instead of Texas Tech? I mean, as a Michigan fan, I'd much rather play Iowa than Maryland or Rutgers. Sure, Iowa might be shitty, but at least we've played them something like 70 times before. Winning at Kinnick will always be cool - fucking pink locker room. Winning at where ever the fuck Rutgers plays is a giant meh.
Leave Rutgers alone
Mame YO
slings rocks
Actually if the PAC looks at expansion teams like BSU, BYU, TCU would be good gets. Maybe another Texas team that isn't Texas also. Or I guess a team with an existing rivalry like CSU because of Colorado. 16 teams. Or instead f BSU/CSU they take the Oklahoma teams or more Texas. Idk it is the PACIFIC athletic conference... Meh
Let's say: Big12 burns to the ground and everyone blames Texas. SEC, PAC and B1G absorb teams and grab some mid-majors to make 16 each. ACC too I guess.
honestly though I like the 5 major conferences; I'm not sure it would be better to have four 16 team conferences vs five 12 team conferences or whatever.
Let's say: Big12 burns to the ground and everyone blames Texas. SEC, PAC and B1G absorb teams and grab some mid-majors to make 16 each. ACC too I guess.
honestly though I like the 5 major conferences; I'm not sure it would be better to have four 16 team conferences vs five 12 team conferences or whatever.
jobob 5.0
I Am Reborn
Why would Vandy be in? Let's realign everything.
Take the top 2/3 of football... that's approximately 84 teams. Buh-bye Vandy, UAB, Troy, South Alabama, etc.
6 14-team conferences. Your 13-game schedule is your 6 division opponents, 2 cross-division conference opponents, and 1 school from every other conference (on a rotating basis... meaning you will have played every team in the nation in 14 years).
6 conference winners + 2 at-large go into an 8-team playoff.
BOOM. You're welcome.
BearDownUofA
Festizio
They stopped caring about that in 1978 when Arizona and ASU came along. Names don't mean shit.
Dr. Shats Basoon
Closed mouths don't get fed
That's awesome actually.. If we are blowing it up this gets my vote
MtneerManiac
Burning Couches
Jesus Christ somebody kill me.
We go from playing Texas, Oklahoma, TCU, Baylor, and Okie Lite every year (among others) to getting fucking Memphis, Cincy, Tulan, and UCF?
RIP awesome home games.
I'd seriously go pickett outside out AD and plead for Ollie to get us into the ACC coastal.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
What if we pare it down to 6 12-team confs, so we still get 72 teams in. The schedule then would be 13 games as follows: 5 divisional, and 3 cross divisional (so you can alt home and away for 2 years and still play every team in your conf on a more regular basis), then you can play 5 schools from the other conferences every year, but you play them back to back years alternating home and away. You play every team in CFB every 12 years, home and away.
You still get an 8 team playoff with 6 conf winners and 2 at large, and you get to play every other team in CFB in a 12 year span, home and away.
Extras:
- I would love to get a relegation into the system, but that makes it too complicated.
- I think it would be good if you also made it so that a high percentage of out-of-conference game tickets (say 25%) were available to the visiting team first, to encourage travel to new places and help intertwine CFB into a real league with less provincialism.
- If you want you could also allow every team one "pre-season" game to play anyone else they wanted, like D1AA schools and former D1A schools.
- Keep whatever bowls you want for teams with a winning record.
- Offer a real TV package for fans (like other sports do) where the league controls the content and distribution...and profits. Two very important things are achieved 1) every team's every game can be watched easily 2) you eliminate ESPN's control of the sport, so they go back to broadcasting the sport as a partner, and not driving outcomes. If a broadcaster like ABC, CBS, FOX, or ESPN wants to show a game, great let them pay money and pick the biggest games, but they will still be available free for fans who are subscribed to the CFB package.
- Split the money a more equitably, with bonuses going to different levels, like champs, playoff, finishing above .500, etc.
- This is football only. The schools can do whatever for basketball and other sports.
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jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Current rumors are saying Big 12 wants Cincinnati and Memphis. Which, other than moving east, makes little sense to me. I know I'm biased but...
Salt Lake is a bigger TV market that both Cinci and Memphis.
While travel to Provo (especially from Morgantown) may be long, the fact that BYU can guarantee 10K butts in the seats when the Cougs visit should help offset that quite a bit. Even in a bad year, BYU still got very close to outnumbering the home team in attendance in several games during their 4-game losing streak this season.
So if it's mainly about money and TV markets, BYU is the best choice right there. And if Sunday play is an issue, then just take them football only. Odds are you wouldn't be playing football on a Sunday anyway.
Salt Lake is a bigger TV market that both Cinci and Memphis.
While travel to Provo (especially from Morgantown) may be long, the fact that BYU can guarantee 10K butts in the seats when the Cougs visit should help offset that quite a bit. Even in a bad year, BYU still got very close to outnumbering the home team in attendance in several games during their 4-game losing streak this season.
So if it's mainly about money and TV markets, BYU is the best choice right there. And if Sunday play is an issue, then just take them football only. Odds are you wouldn't be playing football on a Sunday anyway.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Also, someone laughed at the idea of BYU going to the French Quarter once every two years. You could say the same thing about them going to Vegas. But BYU always shows up well in Vegas and a lot of alumni live there. I know it's a bit different because of proximity. But I didn't hear Tulane complaining about BYU's fanbase showing up when they've played down there. Lots of Mormons and BYU fans live in and around New Orleans. I think 10K fans from the visiting fans would be the norm there and most teams would be pretty darn happy with that.
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
not like there are very many better options for expansion. which is why i'd still rather see dissolution
silverwheels
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i like this idea the most if massive restructuring were to happen.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
I like it, but I prefer to have some type of at large selection for a playoff. I would also expand the OOC to 4-5 game, so you can play other teams around the country. If you are going to do a lot of restructuring, and the winners of confs get into the playoff, you need some way to balance the fact that some confs will not be as good as others. You need to get teams playing other teams all around the country. This is especially true if you go from 12 games to 10. I would also add a clause something like "teams with more than 3-4 total losses do not get an auto bid, but are available for an at-large selection as their spot becomes an at-large playoff spot. Something like that.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
