That was also back when those stats were good Elway was Top 10 in almost every passing category and #2 in completion %
Josh Allen is like in the 90s in ever category, lol.
Josh Allen is like in the 90s in ever category, lol.
That was also back when those stats were good Elway was Top 10 in almost every passing category and #2 in completion %
Josh Allen is like in the 90s in ever category, lol.
The parallels for Bortles and Flacco are right there. That playoff run for the super bowl is legit the best 4 game stretch of Flacco’s whole career that just happened to come in the playoffs on a contract year.I think it's Joe Flacco, but he's also playing for a competent organization.
Bortles is still, statistically, not really a good QB. He was 20th in passer rating, and 12th in QBR. His only top ten stat this year was, uh, interceptions. But he's a WINNER so maybe you have a point.
Quarterbacks in general have not been developed well over the past decade. I think the stat is that Bortles is the only QB drafted since 2013 to win a playoff game
I feel like not that long ago, it was a given that QBs would sit a year before becoming a starter. Rodgers sat like three seasons I think. I’m sure that going away has had a direct impact on their development
Mariota just won one this year...
Mel Kiper has JOSH ALLEN #1 on his BIG BOARD
Carr has had some rough luck, but I think he’s there.Maybe it was two? I can’t remember
But Mariota was even worse than Bortles this year, so the point remains.
Wilson is the only guy I can think of that started day one and became a top tier QB (and maybe he’s second tier?)
Carr was pretty damn good last year tho.
They were from the same draft. Look at career numbers.
That stat kind of looks worse than it really is when you truly break it down. First, you get to to skip one of the better QB classes in 2012 (Luck, Wilson, Cousins, Tannehill, plus playoff wins by Foles and Osweiler).Quarterbacks in general have not been developed well over the past decade. I think the stat is that Bortles is the only QB drafted since 2013 to win a playoff game
I feel like not that long ago, it was a given that QBs would sit a year before becoming a starter. Rodgers sat like three seasons I think. I’m sure that going away has had a direct impact on their development
I just don’t understand the argument you were trying to make. Carr has started from day one and been pretty damn good. The fact that they had similar stats and one made the playoffs and the other was 6-10 says a lot more about their teams than anything.
Bortles was second in the NFL in touchdowns his second year with absolutely no help on offense.
Carr has had the better career, but injuries and inconsistency are part of the risk of starting a rookie day one
Not sure if you meant start right away, and be successful eventually, or start right away, and be successful right away. But Aikman was awful his rookie season.I think the last QB to be taken high, start right away and be successful was UCLA legend Troy Aikman. I'm sure Jimmy Johnson fucking the Vikings over in the Walker trade helped that process somewhat.
To be fair there was no talent around him his rookie season. Smith showed up in his second season and Irvin wasn't any good until 92.Not sure if you meant start right away, and be successful eventually, or start right away, and be successful right away. But Aikman was awful his rookie season.
Not sure if you meant start right away, and be successful eventually, or start right away, and be successful right away. But Aikman was awful his rookie season.
I wonder if there was a running back that they might have relied upon. Go Gata.Aikman’s numbers are garbage - 23 TDs in a season is his career high?
The GOAT had multiple 30 TD seasons in the 90s while Aikman couldn’t even get above 20 half the time
Fake newsWho is that? Manning had zero and Marino had one
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1997 Peyton Manning 287/477 3,819 yds 36 TD 11 INT