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2016-17 NBA Season: no IT ITT
- Thread starter silverwheels
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NML
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When have I ever said that?
NML
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He's making $8m more than Asik
evil1
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Some of you are perpetuating the myth that Westbrook didn't let his teammates develop or contribute during the season. I know that fits the standard script but that is objectively false in this case.
The surrounding players on OKC saw their overall usage rate and shots per game increase this season (Oladipo's usage rate slightly decreased but his shots per game slightly increased). It makes zero logical sense to say that Westbrook was impeding their offensive development when in fact their offensive opportunities increased this season.
The surrounding players on OKC saw their overall usage rate and shots per game increase this season (Oladipo's usage rate slightly decreased but his shots per game slightly increased). It makes zero logical sense to say that Westbrook was impeding their offensive development when in fact their offensive opportunities increased this season.
silverwheels
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Not now, evil1. They're on a roll.
NML
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I wonder if anything else changed this off season - such as another high usage player leaving - that may have caused that.
evil1
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FIFY
let me infuse some pelicans up in here, up in here
has anyone seen Asik lately?
he was a DNP for practically the second half of the season. I thought it was just a roster trick b/c they kept saying illness was the reason
dude looked like he was dying
has anyone seen Asik lately?
he was a DNP for practically the second half of the season. I thought it was just a roster trick b/c they kept saying illness was the reason
dude looked like he was dying
sayo
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Saw that pic earlier this year. Fucking weird man. Did they ever find out what was wrong?let me infuse some pelicans up in here, up in here
has anyone seen Asik lately?
he was a DNP for practically the second half of the season. I thought it was just a roster trick b/c they kept saying illness was the reason
dude looked like he was dying
Pretty reigning shamp (and GOAT) LeBron would disagree.
not that i know of
i'm gon tweet a couple of dudes that run some pelicans blogs
i'ma see if Fisher is around
evil1
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You are missing the point. The argument that Wetsbrook didn't let his supporting cast develop during the regular season because his usage rate was too high essentially means that you are arguing that his supporting cast didn't get sufficient opportunities during the regular season. But that is objectively not true. Regardless of why, Westbrook's supporting cast got more offensive opportunities this season than they did the previous season.
lolWhy are the only options losing Russ or letting him play like an asshole? Is he unable to understand long term development and planning?
silverwheels
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I hope Andre Roberson's exit interview is just Presti and Donovan making him shoot free throws all day every day in an empty Chesapeake Arena for the next month.
evil1
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I like Roberson but his offensive game is painful. Hell, if he learned to just shoot the corner three he would be the next Bruce Bowen (I mean that as a compliment).
NML
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Of course - because they lost a massive usage player in Durant. So, yeah, they got more opportunities.
That gives zero support to the idea that Westbrook helped his supporting cast
NML
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You have no proof that the team won more games playing like this than if they played like a normal NBA franchise
silverwheels
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He can shoot the corner three. It's just more likely to hit the side of the backboard than the rim, let alone go in.
I hope his lack of offensive skill means he'll be cheap to re-sign this summer, because his defense is definitely top tier. And yeah, free throws and corner threes should be his priority. We know he's athletic and can get to the rim fairly easily when the play calls for it. Just have to work on those two other things.
NML
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Well they were, by any measure, an extremely average team. So I have some proof
NML
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lol who is this person disguised as evil?
Of course their opportunities went up, they played more. That doesn't mean they wouldn't have gone up more if they played with an average usage PG
NML
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Haha okay man.
RUSS is the embodiment of OKC. Championships be damned, we just want to be decent. When ur entire franchise accepts and breeds mediocrity, you think this season was good.
Again - "OKC is a joke franchise." End of discussion.
silverwheels
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Yeah, he was bad. I'll give him a pass, though, since it was his first playoff series, although I'm hoping he shows a lot more consistency next year.
and I'm not saying I have proof. you are the only one doing that. I said I thought it was needed but that means it's my opinion. I think that's where our disconnect is, you don't get when I'm stating my opinion and you just assume I am stating fact.
I do believe his play elevated their win total this year, and i think you'd have to have a very special way of looking at things to deny that outright but I wouldn't hold that against you.
I do believe his play elevated their win total this year, and i think you'd have to have a very special way of looking at things to deny that outright but I wouldn't hold that against you.
silverwheels
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silverwheels
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im saying they won more than him dropping his usage and relying on the others but only this year. especially early and not as much late. but I have no proof other than watching 60+ games so I won't be mad if you don't agree. also don't care if thudner are a joke to you. plenty of people believe both.
we've already let it be known they all hate him because they want him on their teams, you just hate him because of his style of play and he doenst value your friendship. you're in the clear
I don't unless I'm trolling which I promise I'll only do going forward if you and sayo start it. especially sayo because he's one of the more knowledgeable on the board and we almost had good discussion today.
I know how shitty he can be, and I know he simultaneously was the reason they were in every game this series as well as the reason they lost each. aside from maybe game 4. I put that on Roberson shooting freethrows worse than miss ou's 8 year old niece
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sayo
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I really like Russ. I wish more players were as intense and competitive as him. I'd love it if the blazers had someone of his caliber (Dame is a top tier pg but not on russ' level). I think a lot of my criticism of him and his style of play comes from wanting him to succeed on a team level. He's obviously capable of putting up insane individual stats but the best players take their teammates to the next level.