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GatorTD

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program has more talent in it than when he took over the program overall.

They have no discipline within the program however, never had under Summy. Without Manziel being an elite college talent he would have already been fired.
 

GatorTD

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He's missing the first 6-7 games anyway. If he stays at Florida he has 3 years to play 2.5 seasons. It's not a guarantee he gets the starter job back and the reps over the spring he would get aren't gonna be the same as I he started the full year.

If he transfers, he sits out next year and has 2 to play 2.
 

GatorTD

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He had some nice OL. and obiv he wasn't massive retarded and offer Manziel to be a safety like Mack brown.
 

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this angers me,i blame harvey updyke.you see when auburn beat alabama in the 2010 ironbowl i went to bed that night and had a dream that the year was 2020 and alabama had not beat auburn since 2010 and alabama loses the 2020 ironbowl and a year later 2021 the state of alabama takes a vote and auburn wins and the state alabama changes it's name to the state of auburn and everybody says war eagle,then the very next day i wake up to hear about a alabama fan named harvey updyke had poisoned toomer's corner and that was the day my dream died and ever since then alabama has been on a hot streak while auburn goes into darkness and dismay. i am very angry auburn fan my dream would have came true if harvey updyke had not did what he did and alabama fans know this to be true.




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Lightningwar

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Sumlin is out unless they have a good year. As for the pressuring to get players back. That is a tough one. I can see it from both sides. The athletic training staff wants to make sure the players are healthy. But the coaching staff wants to make sure guys arent sitting waiting on injuries that have healed enough. And it is also subjective. One guy can play with a broke bone, the other is out because he tweaked a joint. I suspect Sumlins staff wouldnt put a guy out there if he were truly hurt. But they dont want guys nursing injuries either.
 

DeadMan

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Sumlin is out unless they have a good year. As for the pressuring to get players back. That is a tough one. I can see it from both sides. The athletic training staff wants to make sure the players are healthy. But the coaching staff wants to make sure guys arent sitting waiting on injuries that have healed enough. And it is also subjective. One guy can play with a broke bone, the other is out because he tweaked a joint. I suspect Sumlins staff wouldnt put a guy out there if he were truly hurt. But they dont want guys nursing injuries either.

Right, that's my thought, too. Plus, this guy isn't exactly a reliable source, given that he's suing A&M.
 

JSU Zack

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Good story here about Sumlin's background. His father was the coach at Booker T. Washington, the black high school in Brewton. My dad is from Brewton and played for Miller around the same time Sumlin played high school ball in Indiana. Sumlin's neighbor, Walter Lewis, was teammates and friends with my dad at TR Miller.

It's interesting how small the world is. I'm not really an A&M fan due to their most recent Heisman winner, but Sumlin is a fine coach in a pressure-cooker situation.

Primadonna QB's aren't helping. Those little shits in Texas get praised during 7-on-7 drills as the next Manning, and helicopter parents get pissed when they don't start early. Most QB's are lucky to even make a D-I roster. What makes your kid entitled to the job?
 

GatorTD

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Good story here about Sumlin's background. His father was the coach at Booker T. Washington, the black high school in Brewton. My dad is from Brewton and played for Miller around the same time Sumlin played high school ball in Indiana. Sumlin's neighbor, Walter Lewis, was teammates and friends with my dad at TR Miller.

It's interesting how small the world is. I'm not really an A&M fan due to their most recent Heisman winner, but Sumlin is a fine coach in a pressure-cooker situation.

Primadonna QB's aren't helping. Those little shits in Texas get praised during 7-on-7 drills as the next Manning, and helicopter parents get pissed when they don't start early. Most QB's are lucky to even make a D-I roster. What makes your kid entitled to the job?
Sumlin's an asshole coach who has let the entitled bullshit ruin the program. Its not "entitled kids" when 2 5* QBs both transfer out of your program when people realize you don't know what the fuck you're doing without Kingsbury.
 

Lightningwar

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The key difference being anyone who got into trouble for that with the Vols was immediately suspended or booted, while FSU promoted their rapist for Heisman and had the PD cover up the case which was my beef with that deal the entire time.

That Manning case says otherwise.

That said it is amazing to me how these schools tend to still have a good ole boys club feel about them when it comes to sexual assault after the 1980s. Whether it is PSU, FSU, Baylor, UT or any other school with these issues.
 

Southpaw

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Lol :thumbsup:

But really what's the tally

I have no idea. The two recent ones were both former Vols. One hadn't even played in 15 years and the other guy graduated a year or two ago. One kid just got charged with some sort of assault, but it wasn't sexual. At least I know the program is on the rise because of all these arrests. Means we have better players now.


That Manning case says otherwise.
Well that's a media creation. There is no Manning case. He is not a defendant. That lawsuit just mentioned that incident from 20 years ago to grab headlines. If he put his nuts on some chicks head, then that is wrong obviously lol, but I mean shit I really don't think he did.
 

Lightningwar

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I have no idea. The two recent ones were both former Vols. One hadn't even played in 15 years and the other guy graduated a year or two ago. One kid just got charged with some sort of assault, but it wasn't sexual. At least I know the program is on the rise because of all these arrests. Means we have better players now.



Well that's a media creation. There is no Manning case. He is not a defendant. That lawsuit just mentioned that incident from 20 years ago to grab headlines. If he put his nuts on some chicks head, then that is wrong obviously lol, but I mean shit I really don't think he did.

Read more about it. UT clearly covered it up for what it was. Her boss swept it under the rug and called it a prank. There is also potential academic fraud within that deposition from the second lawsuit. I honestly don't know how you can think he didn't do it. The one witness to the incident says he was not mooning him but did exactly what she said he did.
 

fsuprime

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Ah ty, I tried reading an article but it just mentions a group of players beating up a WR for trying to help a victim and forcing him to transfer. It was not clear if they all raped her or were just protecting their friend and snitches get stitches etc.
 

Southpaw

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You probably know more than me. All I ever hear are the headlines on local news. I don't even know which WR supposedly got beat up and transferred. Never heard of that story. I just know that former player Cosey Coleman was arrested for Agg assault and former player Mack Crowder was arrested for some online child shit. Both in Tampa. And that one of their new recruits named Alexis or something was recently arrested for wrestling with a girl or something stupid.

Oh and Manning jerked off in some trainer's ear or something.
 

Lightningwar

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She signed an affidavit that said there was no physical contact. The same girl also sued fashion designer Donna Karan. She seems like a litigious person out for money to me.

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She signed an affidavit that said Manning mooned her. That doesnt preclude physical contact. I think the interesting thing is her boss admits that players mooned themselves in the locker room and she didnt have the same reaction as this "mooning" from Manning. Well golly gee I wonder why.
 

GatorTD

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Ah ty, I tried reading an article but it just mentions a group of players beating up a WR for trying to help a victim and forcing him to transfer. It was not clear if they all raped her or were just protecting their friend and snitches get stitches etc.
So wait. Seriously?

Tennessee football coach Butch Jones told sophomore wide receiver Drae Bowles that Bowles "betrayed the team" after helping a woman who said she had been sexually assaulted by two football players, an amended complaint filed Wednesday in a Title IX lawsuit against the university showed.

According to the filing, Jones later apologized for calling Bowles "a traitor."
 

fsuprime

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yep i figured with southpaw inside sources into Tallahassee pD, FSUPD, SA, and admin he would know what was going on at UT too... but really that part of story seems crazy to me too me
 

Southpaw

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It's just a strategy by the plaintiff's attorney to pressure Tennessee into settling. They will just keep adding amended complaints weekly or daily and keep it in the news.

Of course if Jones said that he needs to go, but I'd be surprised if he really said that.
 
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GatorTD

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What is going on in Gainsville? Hearing Harris and Callaway havent been with the team since Jan?
There were sexual assault rumors early in the year that never went anywhere. Could be related.

Callaway would be a loss kind of like the level of losing Grier last year. He was by far the best player on offense.
 
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