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Brick
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i just don't get the logic that "OH #4 TEAM THAT BARELY GOT IN WON SO LETS MAKE THE THING 16"
man i want to hate fuck chris fowler.
people against expansion don't deny that anyone from #1-#16 can beat each other any day, or consecutively.
oregon lost to #10 arizona
alabama lost to #9 ole miss
ohio state lost to #131421 virginia tech
it is not validation of the system. anyone who thought ohio state couldn't win is a moran.
if ur gonna be a playoff proponent, at least get ur argument right.
is it more entertaining than the BCS? damn right. four is fine by me. anything more is too much imo. there are tons of teams with 2 to 3 losses. pick those out of a hat. if you do 8 you may as well do 16 because generally they're the same types of teams: could beat anyone but didn't have an HURR ELITE DURR season.
man i want to hate fuck chris fowler.
people against expansion don't deny that anyone from #1-#16 can beat each other any day, or consecutively.
oregon lost to #10 arizona
alabama lost to #9 ole miss
ohio state lost to #131421 virginia tech
it is not validation of the system. anyone who thought ohio state couldn't win is a moran.
if ur gonna be a playoff proponent, at least get ur argument right.
is it more entertaining than the BCS? damn right. four is fine by me. anything more is too much imo. there are tons of teams with 2 to 3 losses. pick those out of a hat. if you do 8 you may as well do 16 because generally they're the same types of teams: could beat anyone but didn't have an HURR ELITE DURR season.
Mame YO
slings rocks
I should admit: Ma'wife got mad at me and said that she "hopes ohio state wins" right before mariota fumbled early in the game (it was turned over and given back to the ducks). She must have unleashed the ju ju or something. I'm sorry guys. All hail @Pooperscooper, da reel reel MVP.
There are roughly 120 teams in the top division of college football, and unless that amount of teams is sufficiently paired down, 4 teams isn't enough statistical representation to determine a true champion. 8 team playoff means that less than 10% of teams even make the playoffs for a CHANCE to play for the championship in the playoffs. That is still by far the lowest playoff percentage of any sport in history. If the top 10% of your teams aren't "deserving" of playing for the national championship, then there are fundamental flaws in your sport so great that it should be completely disbanded and you need to reorganize from scratch. 8 team CFB playoffs is equivalent to the NFL starting their playoffs with the Super Bowl.
Now even in an 8 team playoff, how the teams are picked still matters, and I'm worried college football is going to really dick this up by giving conference champions autobids. In a system with round robin play for conference championships, this would actually be a good way to objectively pick playoff teams... but that's not the system we have. We have mong conference champion games where conferences are further subdivided to divisions. This means that every year some borderline .500 team will back into a conference championship game because the system is flawed (there is always a weak division somewhere). Then that team actually wins their conference championship game and makes the playoffs with a .500 record over teams that actually "deserve" it more. This "small division" issue is the same thing that fucks with the NFL
Anyway, here is how you perfectly split up a sport that has hundreds of teams (promotion/relegation talk inbound! @zeek)
Split the Power 5 Conferences (do some wheeling and dealing to exclude the shit teams and bring in the best of the mid majors) into 5 geographic 10 team conferences (3 southern conferences 2 northern conferences). Take the next 50 teams and do the same thing with them. Take the remaining 20 teams and add them to the best 30 FCS teams. Etc etc on down the line. Basically we are organizing all college athletics in segments of 50 in these 5 distinct geographical regions. The regions are "fuzzy" in that the boundaries move to keep the conferences as geographically close as possible.
At each level the conference plays a 9 game round robin conference schedule + 4 random games against the closest adjacent conferences (9+4 = 13 games total) conference champions are based on total record, not just conference record, with tie breakers being objective. The conference champions and the next 3 best record "wild card" teams (with objective tie breakers) make the 8 team playoff. With this setup, every playoff contender will be deserving. The championship teams will play a total of 15 games, just like now under the 4 team playoff with the mong conference championship games.
At the top level this is self explanatory and there is no added benefit other than playing for the championship. At the lower levels the teams are playing for the playoffs AND to get autopromotion to the upper division. The lowest performing teams 8 teams in the upper division (5 conference losers + 3 wild losers) would be autorelegated. You could also tweak this setup to add promotion/relegation playoffs, but I don't really like rewarding under performing upper division teams with an additional "out."
Each year the conferences would be re-shuffled based on the geographic locations of the remaining 50 teams.
Edit: Fixed %, thanks for pointing that out Redmond, the point is the same.
Now even in an 8 team playoff, how the teams are picked still matters, and I'm worried college football is going to really dick this up by giving conference champions autobids. In a system with round robin play for conference championships, this would actually be a good way to objectively pick playoff teams... but that's not the system we have. We have mong conference champion games where conferences are further subdivided to divisions. This means that every year some borderline .500 team will back into a conference championship game because the system is flawed (there is always a weak division somewhere). Then that team actually wins their conference championship game and makes the playoffs with a .500 record over teams that actually "deserve" it more. This "small division" issue is the same thing that fucks with the NFL
Anyway, here is how you perfectly split up a sport that has hundreds of teams (promotion/relegation talk inbound! @zeek)
Split the Power 5 Conferences (do some wheeling and dealing to exclude the shit teams and bring in the best of the mid majors) into 5 geographic 10 team conferences (3 southern conferences 2 northern conferences). Take the next 50 teams and do the same thing with them. Take the remaining 20 teams and add them to the best 30 FCS teams. Etc etc on down the line. Basically we are organizing all college athletics in segments of 50 in these 5 distinct geographical regions. The regions are "fuzzy" in that the boundaries move to keep the conferences as geographically close as possible.
At each level the conference plays a 9 game round robin conference schedule + 4 random games against the closest adjacent conferences (9+4 = 13 games total) conference champions are based on total record, not just conference record, with tie breakers being objective. The conference champions and the next 3 best record "wild card" teams (with objective tie breakers) make the 8 team playoff. With this setup, every playoff contender will be deserving. The championship teams will play a total of 15 games, just like now under the 4 team playoff with the mong conference championship games.
At the top level this is self explanatory and there is no added benefit other than playing for the championship. At the lower levels the teams are playing for the playoffs AND to get autopromotion to the upper division. The lowest performing teams 8 teams in the upper division (5 conference losers + 3 wild losers) would be autorelegated. You could also tweak this setup to add promotion/relegation playoffs, but I don't really like rewarding under performing upper division teams with an additional "out."
Each year the conferences would be re-shuffled based on the geographic locations of the remaining 50 teams.
Edit: Fixed %, thanks for pointing that out Redmond, the point is the same.
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@Brick just hates the idea of playoffs because he knows Oregon will never be able to string together 3 wins against real competition because they are mentally weak and have a soft defensive underbelly that will never be able to stop real man footbaw running game. It would be far easier for them to be elected into the title game because of their #BRAND and only have to win one game. Oregon fan just like Bama fan.
DanishDonut0
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What was the Lebron tweet? I remember him coming to some Oregon games decked out in Oregon gear. I suppose it would make sense for him to be an ohio state fan but in my mind he is just another Justin Bieber-like bandwagoner.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
If you can't beat Alabama on the field, then beat them off.
RedmondLonghorn
#LOB
Is this a trap?
8 isn't less than 1% of 120. Neither is 4, for that matter. Less than 10%, yes.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
It was a trap long before anyone needed to do maths.
Why does 6*8=48?
I meant less than 10% and just left the zero off in my rage induced posting coma. The point about the Superbowl still stands. 2/32 and 8/120 are basically the same "playoff percentage." So if the top 8 "aren't worthy" in college football, then the top 2 seeds "aren't worthy" in the NFL.
You actually talk to your coworkers? Lawd
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
only to troll them about Tebow.
RedmondLonghorn
#LOB
I figured that is what you meant, but you repeated 1% twice so I was nonplussed.
Still entertaining the Tebow/Manning QB rotation idea that @Travis7401 mentioned for a corch mode dynasty. Kinda wish it would happen.
Wooly
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Are you saying Spider Y Banana is not the way to play football?
Footbaw >>> football?
jdlikewhoa
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Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Mac Miller was great in the UBL.
Mame YO
slings rocks
You know, I'm moving on after this, but it's pretty fucking stupid that the narrative is right back to BIG BOY FOOTBAWWWW BEATS ORYGUN when in reality OSU uses a lot of the same fucking plays and shares similar philosophies as oregon (sans tempo, which Meyer has never really bought into ala kelly/Helfrich). Hell, that trap play that OSU ran over and over is a very similar play that Oregon has used for years. I can't remember the exact games it was used in but fishduck has featured that trap and it's variations on not one, but two articles since 2010. The sweep OSU used is the exact version Kelly brought to Oregon. But yeah, big boy footbaw wrecks orygun yep yep dey just a weak finesse team mhmm. Indisputable.
RedmondLonghorn
#LOB
You'll be shocked to hear this, but I mostly agree with you.
I will say that while Oregon and Ohio State do share a lot in terms of scheme, the execution of it by Ohio State is a bit more on the physical side.
Brick
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just don't watch it @Mame YO. i shut it off when the clock hit 0. did not watch halftime. won't turn on a sports channel until march madness. have not read any analysis outside of this thread.
@Travis7401 @DeadMan
“I heard somebody open and shut the gate to the barn lot, but I didn't look around. If I didn't look around it would not be true that somebody had opened the gate with the creaky hinges, and that is a wonderful principle for a man to get hold of... What you don't know know don't hurt you, for it ain't real. They called that Idealism in my book I had when I was in college, and after I got hold of that principle I became an Idealist... If you are an Idealist it does not matter what you do or what goes on around you because it isn't real anyway.”
― Robert Penn Warren, All the King's Men: Restored Edition
@Travis7401 @DeadMan
“I heard somebody open and shut the gate to the barn lot, but I didn't look around. If I didn't look around it would not be true that somebody had opened the gate with the creaky hinges, and that is a wonderful principle for a man to get hold of... What you don't know know don't hurt you, for it ain't real. They called that Idealism in my book I had when I was in college, and after I got hold of that principle I became an Idealist... If you are an Idealist it does not matter what you do or what goes on around you because it isn't real anyway.”
― Robert Penn Warren, All the King's Men: Restored Edition
ZeekLTK
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Bruce Wayne
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@Fluff would have locked this thread two days ago.
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Mr. Radpants
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Fluff has been archived.
Mame YO
slings rocks
fivethirtyeight.com likes a 6 or 8 team playoff. Interesting read.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/expand-the-college-football-playoff/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/expand-the-college-football-playoff/
Just heard car sale Jones on Dan Patrick. Seemed very humble and intelligent. I'm sure he's grown up a lot since that tweet. I guess he had a tough background and he gave the best answer to, "how did you overcome your background?", that I've heard. Paraphrasing, but he said he didn't want credit for that. Lots of people overcome tough backgrounds and lots of people are doing it every dat. He wasn't the first and won't be the last. Too bad he plays for urban. I'd root for the big mong otherwise. Maybe he can be a Titan next year after Mecklenburger shits the bed next season.
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
I'm guessing an autocorrect, but would be funny if it presaged some future scandal with Mr. Jones.