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Southpaw Gon' Look Are you from PD looking for evidence on @brick, sir? The Miami Hurricanes Thread aka Baseless Rumors Corner

GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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Haha, I actually enjoy these "ultimatum" seasons. Either we exceed expectations and I'm happy, or we get a new coach and I'm happy.

I'm fully on board the Cristobal train, and I hear he'd jump at the job.
 
CJ_24

CJ_24

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What does Mike Perierra do when he's not asked to comment on reviewed plays? Does he just have to hang out in the studio for four hours on Friday, then all day Saturday and Sunday? Does he read? Do blow off of escort's nipples?
 
CJ_24

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GuyIncognito said:
It seems to me entirely possible that we drop the next 5 games.
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I agree. I feel as though FAU gifted Miami 3 of their 4 turnovers, and without those turnovers it's an entirely different ballgame.

Miami might have been the better team, top to bottom, last night; but if Miami was better, they weren't appreciably better.
 
CJ_24

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Feels like Miami has forced a lot of turnovers this year. 7 picks and 3 fumble recoveries so far from what I could gather. Dunno if that's a product of the defense or a product of the competition.
 
Soonerfan09

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Is Kayaa a Sophomore or Junior? I remember saying he looked good as s true freshman, but can't remember if it was last year or the year before. I think it was last year and if so, I still think he will develop into a good QB (but if he's a junior, I digress; however, I only seen the end of the 4th and OT, and only a part of the USF game).


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GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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I will say this: I think our OL played great, I think our RBs play great, I think our WRs have glue for hands, and I like our defensive backfield.

I hope the next coach doesn't clean out the staff, because we don't need it. The three guys at the top are where the problems are.
 
DeadMan

DeadMan

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Here's a ridiculous scenario I read today. If the Eagles fire Chip Kelly, what would you guys think of Kelly coming to be Miami's coach? Obviously, that would be a long shot, but damn he would probably be great for Miami (or any school, really).
 
GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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Eh. Trying to set aside the fact that I just don't like Chip Kelly, I'd be wary of it. If he has success is he just going to bail at the first NFL or big time college offer that comes his way? Or is he going to clean house implementing his system and his personnel only to leave us hanging with it 3-4 years down the line?

I've argued before that Miami is kinda trapped. If coaches have success then they're lured away. The only ones who get extended time at the helm are the ones nobody else wants.

That's why at this point I think we should put a premium on Miami guys who understand what the program is and what it isn't. A lot of the base seems to want Butch Davis back. I think Mario Cristobal gives us all of the upside of Butch without any of the baggage.

I mean let's be honest, Chip Kelly would be an A+ hire, but I'd be skeptical of the long term prospects of it. For all its history, Miami is still a stepping stone.

Kelly could have had a dynasty at Oregon and he bailed. Why would Miami be any different?
 
Brick

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He left because of the Fantasy Football League pull. If the Eagles fire him, he'll likely never get another FFL job. The FFL won't recycle spread coaches.

I don't think Kelly is a fit at Miami anyway. He wouldn't buy into the "we'll send you to the NFL" recruiting shit, I don't think. He doesn't care about that, given the type of players he recruited at Oregon. He'll recruit to fit his system.

The best case for Miami is everyone goes brain dead and forgets the spread offense exists, and they hire some 1337 recruiting guy to dominate P Right 54 Blast.
 
DeadMan

DeadMan

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So, basically how a lot of people feel about Michigan hiring Harbaugh.

I think it would come down to whether Chip would want to go back to the NFL. If he doesn't, Miami is probably a destination for him if he decides to go to Miami. But if he wants to go back to the NFL, then yeah, he'll leave Miami. I don't see Chip as a Todd Graham-type when it comes to college programs. Oregon obviously offers a lot, but it's not like it's a historic power and college football blueblood. Miami probably is that, but it can't offer the support that Oregon has.

For what it's worth, I think transitions with a lot of coaches are really overstated. Kelly runs a run and shoot, zone blocking scheme. I don't know exactly what Miami runs at this point (I'm guessing zone blocking, west coast offense), but I doubt it'd be much of a transition. If Chip could find a QB to run the offense, I'd bet a lot of the other pieces fall into place easily.
 
Brick

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Yeah, the transition to his offense wouldn't take much. Especially in the ACC. They'd almost automatically be the best offensive team in the league the day he steps in the door. He'd turn some noodle into the best QB since Dorsey.
 
GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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Harbaugh is a Michigan guy though, right? Or were you referring to my comment about hiring Miami guys?

At any rate, I think the defense is where the biggest problems are. We can score points when we want to. We can put up yards.

But this defense is insufferable and has been for years. They sit back and catch everything. It's like watching a team in prevent all game long.

Again, don't get me wrong. I think Kelly's schtick would work great at Miami, just like I thought Leach's would have. But three years of spread offense and then bailing on us for some bigger paycheck isn't what I want.
 
Mr. Radpants

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GuyIncognito said:
That's why at this point I think we should put a premium on Miami guys who understand what the program is and what it isn't. A lot of the base seems to want Butch Davis back. I think Mario Cristobal gives us all of the upside of Butch without any of the baggage.

I mean let's be honest, Chip Kelly would be an A+ hire, but I'd be skeptical of the long term prospects of it. For all its history, Miami is still a stepping stone.

Kelly could have had a dynasty at Oregon and he bailed. Why would Miami be any different?
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I'll take good coaches using it as a stepping stone. All 5 rings were won buy guys using Miami as a stepping stone.
 
GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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Well that's kinda my point. If the guy is a good recruiter and understands the program, he can win here. We don't need a bunch of gimmicky crap to do that. We just need some new blood at the top of the org chart, and especially on defense.
 
PSUEagle

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This discussion is pointless for two reasons:

1. Chip Kelly is not getting fired. Jeffery Lurie (Eagles owner) is extremely patient with his coaches: it would take a 3-13 type disaster for him to boot Chip, and even then I'm not sure it happens.

2. Miami's too cheap to make a hire like that (@Keith1212). If they fire Golden/he makes a move to an Illinois/Rutgers type job, they'll probably do what they always do and make a lazy hire like Cristobal.

That said, if Kelly were at Miami it would be scary: he'd have access to talent he never did at Oregon. In his system that would be absolutely terrifying.

DeadMan said:
For what it's worth, I think transitions with a lot of coaches are really overstated. Kelly runs a run and shoot, zone blocking scheme. I don't know exactly what Miami runs at this point (I'm guessing zone blocking, west coast offense), but I doubt it'd be much of a transition. If Chip could find a QB to run the offense, I'd bet a lot of the other pieces fall into place easily.
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While I agree with your overall point, the bolded is completely wrong.
 
DeadMan

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PSUEagle said:
While I agree with your overall point, the bolded is completely wrong.
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Eh, was making a generalization based on what RichRod runs. In reality, I think all of the distinctions of passing systems are dumb, because everybody uses concepts and routes from every system.
 
PSUEagle

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DeadMan said:
Eh, was making a generalization based on what RichRod runs. In reality, I think all of the distinctions of passing systems are dumb, because everybody uses concepts and routes from every system.
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That's true.

His passing game in the NFL has pretty much been by the book WCO stuff FWIW.
 
bruin228

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Run and Shoot is pretty distinct from other passing systems. Rich Rod's passing game is so trog, I think Mouse Davis would shit his pants for being compared to him.
 
DeadMan

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bruin228 said:
Run and Shoot is pretty distinct from other passing systems. Rich Rod's passing game is so trog, I think Mouse Davis would shit his pants for being compared to him.
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Rich Rod's system emanates from the run and shoot, but it's definitely evolved from that. But again, see my post about how everybody borrows from every passing system.
 
bruin228

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I think that's more in the NFL. Even new Air Raid guys are pretty different from Leach's stuff. That's just one offense. The death of the RnS has simplified things overall though.
 
GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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Haha it's just the same story it's been for years. Put up a bunch of yards but flame out at the end of drives, defense can't ever get a stop.

Also some weird coaching decisions. We opted for a FG with about 8 minutes left to go down 4, then gave up a TD, then decided to go for 4th and 6 from the 10 or so with 4 minutes left. You already kicked the FG last time, why not do it again?

Yeesh.
 
goblue96

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Lightningwar

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Laney, both hilarious and scary. Hilarious because I think he isnt a good game time coach. Scary because he can recruit and with Miami would really have to screw it up to lose games. Also the thought of losing to that douche at some point is too much for me to take.
 
GuyIncognito

GuyIncognito

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Cristobal can recruit too. That's why Alabama dragged his ass out of the netherworld in the first place.
 
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