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2067 Season Thread
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Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Wooly being an ass is not subjective
Well if you aren't enforcing the rule, then it isn't a rule. If you are telling us to quit whining about it and just compete with him, then why don't we just make it a free for all?
confirmation bias
Of course. Not what I was referring to though haha.
I'm attempting to enforce the rule. I have a convo with wooly every time this pops up. If you mean kick him out then that's different.
Lock him out of IFA every time he breaks a rule. Certainly there are punitive steps short of kicking someone out?
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Or even 0.5 of a season.
The real issue these tops teams have away too much budget space. You know things are absurd when one of the top budget teams is signing guys to contracts that the MLBPA wouldn't allow and still have to sell draft picks to buy more IFA GOATs.
I disagree, but yes wooly asking for money looks awful. I told him that.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
The alternating salary years is just as annoying to me. Every year should have to be the same money for him going forward.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Disagree with the top teams budgets being too high or that you can get lucky in ur first season?
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THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I've never said it impedes others devo. I don't believe it does actually.
I do believe that winning a ton of games and having good stats due to having older players around you does tremendously help devo.
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In all seriousness, can someone with a reddit account post in the OOTP this wooly thing and see what people say? I'm legit curious.
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THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
This league is #fair_and_balanced. The only advantage in the game teams get is budgets tied to market size. We eliminated that so it is #fair_and_balanced.
#FAKENEWS
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
NML
Well-Known Member
I've spent multiple off-seasons offering rule suggestions for this. I even suggested a house rule for the minors that violators had to pay a fine. You basically told me that it wasn't possible and/or ignored me. Now that I'm just following what Wooly is doing ur throwing the "aM i ReAlLy GoInG tO hAvE tO cReAtE aGe LiMiTs?" thing in my face? That's what I've been suggesting!
What do you expect would happen when people were constantly complaining about him and nothing was done? If you were having private conversations about things he can't do, how were we suppose to know that?
You get mad when people over-react to his line-stepping, but I made a point to bring suggestions in a non-aggressive and hopefully helpful manner, and nothing was done. Don't throw the "don't be an ass" rule at me when the dude who breaks it every sim has seen zero punishment.
I also told him not to do this too
NML
Well-Known Member
Doesn't seem to be a rule on it doe
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
He has to live in Utah and can't win a ship. Isn't that punishment enough?
All joking aside, if you guys want age limits I can setup an auto-report that will pull and send a list of players over the age limits to the Os/GMs for review and advancement. We're only looking at A and AA since the AI takes care of the IC so I don't see a problem with keeping up with that. If we did that once a week that should help eliminate having old guys in A and AA. My understanding is the AI/game engine isn't setup to do that so this is one way to see who has 50+ guys in A and who has 45 year old MiLC bums that won't retire setting HR records in AA.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
NML
Well-Known Member
Nope. Orlando has said a few different times that a couple million is okay.
So naturally we can expect Wooly to alternate contracts by $2,999,999 million
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Or... or... just bear with me here... what if we fixed the glitch?
If your response to someone being an ass is to follow suit are you not also an ass? "If he does then I'm gon do it," is an immature response IMO.
Osick and I have like a 200+ message PM with wooly. It's easier to talk to him that way because he doesn't visit the forums as often. You are probably right that I should have said that I talked to him about it. I thought I did, but I'm trying to lay more concrete rules for him since he doesn't know when he is being an ass.
Also I don't get mad about it. I try to diffuse it as much as possible. I think some things are blown out of proportion.
NML
Well-Known Member
I tried a "mature" approach but constantly suggesting rules to it. You didn't adopt them. A few times they were just ignored.
Either set hard, printed rules for everyone to follow or don't. But don't expect others to follow unwritten rules and let Wooly play a different game.
Because I don't think there should be a rule. If you guys want to vote on real contract rules then create them and put them up to a vote. It's not a simple rule IMO because it's effects contract structure beyond alternating. I'm more laying out things to him that are dickish that other people don't do.
I just told him not to do it anymore. The reason I think it's more difficult is because there are other ways people structure contracts that could be considered line stepping.
To me this ends up looking like sour grapes more than anything.
It isn't sour grapes, they are GRAPES OF WRATH that have been growing heavy for the vintage for SIM YEARS ON THIS SITE. If ya'll can't get Wooly to stop it with the annoying fuckshit, then people are going to be upset... Especially when through either dumb luck or because of his shit, his development is amazing compared to everyone else.
NML
Well-Known Member
I have suggest rules and given opinions on every single shitty exploit that I think is out there. All of them. Zero have been passed, with maybe the slight exception of the 7 year max rule.
If you don't think there should be a rule, fine - but I'm telling you now that I am going to have alternating contract years, because you can guarantee that wooly will.
If you or wooly think something someone else does is shitty, was has it not been brought up? Where's the outrage about that?
Mature? Eh.
But seriously, he is the only one who can't follow these rules apparently because he has no soul. Setting rules is an option, but it's annoying if the game can't enforce them on its own. If someone has one 24 year old in A I don't want the sim to stop for it every time. Birthdays too. There are MLFA who are older with no experience or even college players who are 24 by the time their first season starts. This is a ramble, so hopefully it makes sense. Let's see if there is a soft cap that warns you like IFA does. Then it would be worth considering.
Book sucks. Git gud.
NML
Well-Known Member
Because I'm leveling the playing field. Am I suppose to play by a different set of rules from Wooly?
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Why not just have a sticky thread with guys that are over the age limits and service time? I had some guys in A last year that were over 24 because they were FA from independent leagues and I moved them up after 50 ABs/50 IP. Just throwing this out there but I can show you guys a sample report I have setup already that would provide this and not require the game to stop.
Wooly is the dust bowl and we are the turtle.
I don't really need a report. A filter works fine. What is the right age?
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
There should be a way to filter it by age and PA/IP. For A if they're over 24 and have over 150 PA or 150 IP in A they should be moved up to AA. Let me check and see if I have one like that setup already that actually works.
That seems like a lot of work when we could just agree to have a free for all. No more rules at all. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT
Who cares? Sim until infinity.
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THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I thought so too-- and personally I don't know wooly like he's a friend or something but I've been on this forum (and forums before for 14 years?) and have always thought he is a pretty funny, nice guy.
But I have serious problems with someone who tells everyone "oh it's just a mistake, don't mind me" and acts like he's oblivious when he's built by far the best pitching staff ever and the best team ever. My team just set the NL record for runs allowed (478). His team gave up 98 runs less! This level of domination is insane. He had 128 triangle wins. No one else has had 119. So you can't play the 'oh geez shucks' card.
You also can't play the 'I don't care about minors' card and then sign 150 MLFA in the off-season THEN assign them and all of the sudden act like 'I had no idea!!!'.
So must believe:
a) He's Mr. Magoo and just randomly without taking advantage of the AI at all built easily the most dominant team this league has ever seen.
OR
b) He's been acting like he thinks everything he does is above board as a ruse to the league.
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Yes our fourth straight LCS... previous 3 winners won the ship so we can just call our series the ship.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
SIM SIM SIM.
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THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
Sad enough to SIM? Are the JV teams ready for their consolation series?