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Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
I started a MLB league with the Yankees, basically going full tank mode. I'm also in commish mode to play around with Leadership and Morale. I started off trading a lot of guys, both at the start of the season after some time. E.G., I traded Andrew Miller (who has good leadership) to the Cubs for Javier Baez (lazy) and Ryan Kalish (shithead). Team starts complaining immediately, we actually started off 1-12 or some shit. They're constantly messaging me to do something to fix it, so I tried calling up different guys. Some guys with good intangibles helped bring up the mood a tad, others (Mason Williams, shithead) didn't help. So I bumped Didi's Leadership to 200 (he fills this role in real life tbh, I don't know why he was so low) in an attempt to fix it. I also bumped A-Rod, but I only saw an improvement when I did it to Didi, because A-Rod has max greed which apparently cancels out any good will.
Eventually Starlin Castro(shithead) and Masahiro Tanaka (just a normal guy) complain that the team is the tank and they want to be traded. Two other guys complain that the clubhouse is still kinda shitty. I traded Chapman for Gallo but didn't call Gallo up just to see if some of the other minors guys would help. I end up calling up C Hagioshka from AAA, who has the TAGGFECTA of VH LEAD/WE/INT. I also called up Slade Heathcott (shithead but he means well) and dumped Kalish. Team started doing okay, but we started bouncing back in wins. Think we got to like 16-22, which is pretty awesome with our bad start. But I wasn't sure if the bump was just rubberbanding, due to winning, or if it was because of the morale change. So I traded A-Rod to the Nats for Giolito, because yolo I'm in commish mode. Team starts doing awful again. We start tanking again and McCann asks to be traded. Anyways, rinse and repeat this over the year. Finished with 66 wins or something, BUCCOS won the World Series, edged out the Cubs in the NLCS because lulz.
But if you looked at the stats on my team, everything was off. Pineda, Nova, Severino, and Eovaldi all had ERAs over 6. Tanaka was at 5 and a half. Starlin Castro (who was petulant and wanted a trade from mid-April) had a Wrc+ of 82. More importantly, the guys I traded away saw huge bumps. Gardner went from hitting 82 WrC+ around June to over 100 the rest of the season in KC. A-Rod put up 2.5 WAR in half a season in Washington (who DID have a good lockerroom). McCann was hitting at 29 WrC+ until August and hit over 100 after a move to Cincinnati (who finished in a bad spot too, never checked their team morale).
I realized the power of Morale around August, so I decided to run another experiment. The White Sox were 8 games out of the wild card in early August, but they had a pretty good record (like 4 games over .500 or something). So I just went in and bumped the morale of some of their main players (Sale, Quintana, Frazier, etc.). They ended up tying the Jays for the last spot. Lost the play-in game, but yeah.
I'm still not sure how much is influenced by having shitheads/not having a "Captain" (this seems to only be guys with very high ratings in the TAGGFECTA; Guys with just 200 Leadership but average or worse WE/INT don't count. There's titles in the editor you can see in commish mode) and how much was by tanking. But my team definitely complained about both, and their performances showed for it.
Now granted this means tanking will be even easier because your team will play worse, but if you're trying to break out of tanking it seems impossible without a 'Captain' type player. I'll also note that player rating doesn't matter, I signed Nick Swisher and he naturally comes with Very High LEAD so he helped my team in that regard.
Eventually Starlin Castro(shithead) and Masahiro Tanaka (just a normal guy) complain that the team is the tank and they want to be traded. Two other guys complain that the clubhouse is still kinda shitty. I traded Chapman for Gallo but didn't call Gallo up just to see if some of the other minors guys would help. I end up calling up C Hagioshka from AAA, who has the TAGGFECTA of VH LEAD/WE/INT. I also called up Slade Heathcott (shithead but he means well) and dumped Kalish. Team started doing okay, but we started bouncing back in wins. Think we got to like 16-22, which is pretty awesome with our bad start. But I wasn't sure if the bump was just rubberbanding, due to winning, or if it was because of the morale change. So I traded A-Rod to the Nats for Giolito, because yolo I'm in commish mode. Team starts doing awful again. We start tanking again and McCann asks to be traded. Anyways, rinse and repeat this over the year. Finished with 66 wins or something, BUCCOS won the World Series, edged out the Cubs in the NLCS because lulz.
But if you looked at the stats on my team, everything was off. Pineda, Nova, Severino, and Eovaldi all had ERAs over 6. Tanaka was at 5 and a half. Starlin Castro (who was petulant and wanted a trade from mid-April) had a Wrc+ of 82. More importantly, the guys I traded away saw huge bumps. Gardner went from hitting 82 WrC+ around June to over 100 the rest of the season in KC. A-Rod put up 2.5 WAR in half a season in Washington (who DID have a good lockerroom). McCann was hitting at 29 WrC+ until August and hit over 100 after a move to Cincinnati (who finished in a bad spot too, never checked their team morale).
I realized the power of Morale around August, so I decided to run another experiment. The White Sox were 8 games out of the wild card in early August, but they had a pretty good record (like 4 games over .500 or something). So I just went in and bumped the morale of some of their main players (Sale, Quintana, Frazier, etc.). They ended up tying the Jays for the last spot. Lost the play-in game, but yeah.
I'm still not sure how much is influenced by having shitheads/not having a "Captain" (this seems to only be guys with very high ratings in the TAGGFECTA; Guys with just 200 Leadership but average or worse WE/INT don't count. There's titles in the editor you can see in commish mode) and how much was by tanking. But my team definitely complained about both, and their performances showed for it.
Now granted this means tanking will be even easier because your team will play worse, but if you're trying to break out of tanking it seems impossible without a 'Captain' type player. I'll also note that player rating doesn't matter, I signed Nick Swisher and he naturally comes with Very High LEAD so he helped my team in that regard.
If that's true, you guys are fucked, lol. OU's reign of terror got nothing on DOUGLASS DECKERADES DUO
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
I'm running season two now and I'm booting all the shitheads, already dumped Castro for a TAGG. So we'll see if the guys like Tanaka improve significantly
I'll probably look at one of the succesful teams too, maybe plant a toxic guy in their locker room and see what happens. I want to see how the reverse side works out too. If I get real into it I'll try and mess with minors teams as well, but I assume it's the same. Pretty big deal if so, though it'd take so long to look at each team's minor squad and see if they're having lockerroom issues to try and find gems to trade for
The one thing I'm not sure about is the factor of the 'hidden' intangible ratings; Handle Success/Failure/Critics, and Controversy. They could play a big factor but we can't see them as players, so that'd be something to watch over long periods of time. AFAIK there's no correlation between them and the TAGGFECTA. I remember Baez was pretty controversial but he was also a shithead, same with Kalish, so I don't know which one triggered the locker room issues Going to test it on two different teams, I'm implanting the Cubs with SHITHEAD CONTROVERSIAL Kris Bryant, and just going to impant the Mets with SHITHEAD BUT DEALS WITH EVERYTHING WELL Matt Harvey, see if there's a difference.
I'll probably look at one of the succesful teams too, maybe plant a toxic guy in their locker room and see what happens. I want to see how the reverse side works out too. If I get real into it I'll try and mess with minors teams as well, but I assume it's the same. Pretty big deal if so, though it'd take so long to look at each team's minor squad and see if they're having lockerroom issues to try and find gems to trade for
The one thing I'm not sure about is the factor of the 'hidden' intangible ratings; Handle Success/Failure/Critics, and Controversy. They could play a big factor but we can't see them as players, so that'd be something to watch over long periods of time. AFAIK there's no correlation between them and the TAGGFECTA. I remember Baez was pretty controversial but he was also a shithead, same with Kalish, so I don't know which one triggered the locker room issues Going to test it on two different teams, I'm implanting the Cubs with SHITHEAD CONTROVERSIAL Kris Bryant, and just going to impant the Mets with SHITHEAD BUT DEALS WITH EVERYTHING WELL Matt Harvey, see if there's a difference.
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TAGG and DECKER gon be dead before you can match OU.
Unfortunately for you, I never had cancer. All my players were upstanding gentlemen.
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
I hope I exported. Can an O confirm?
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
what do the numbers represent in that picture
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
What are the numbers? GOAT power rankings?
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
anyone know what the numbers mean?
What about the draft site? All good?
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
The game and you guys have something in common apparently
Everything is working as it should until it doesn't, you know this
It wasn't earlier today that's why I asked, friend.
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
Interestingly, the Cubs are responding positively to OUTSPOKEN SHITHEEL Kris Bryant. His max controversy coupled with no other redeemable qualities is apparently a refreshing new viewpoint for the team. There is still Jason Hayward who is a captain, so they might be canceling each other out. SHITHEEL Matt Harvey, who is not controversial, on the other hand, is doing poorly and the Mets are doing a bit worse because of it.
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
Nah, I mean the 'Captain' personality class, which is a certain combination of intangibles (something like >150/VH Leadership, >120/High WE, and >100/High Loyalty). When my team was doing bad I was told to bring a 'Captain' type in to help settle the clubhouse down. I don't know how many are needed in order to stop clubhouse turmoil, guess that would vary based on the situation.
Is this a real thing or something else you made up?
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boa...64214-does-anyone-have-personality-guide.html
or open the player editor
or open the player editor
Does it classify them in the editor? I don't think I have looked.
I finally actually looked at Douglass's intangibles today. He is kind of just your average shithead. That just makes it all even better
Yeah, that's part of what made it so depressing when my ASS'CORCH told me he was the clubhouse leader.... " this guy?"
White hot very high leadership doe
A super unloyal leader. What a guy!
Is this something you guys would be into?
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/cgi-bin/ouLiveSim.pl?leagueId=100
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/cgi-bin/ouLiveSim.pl?leagueId=100
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
I'd be into Horsley getting put into the FA pool
If I can slow it down that'd be great. You sim the games in-game, then just upload the game logs into the live sim folder and hit a button. Would be great for Opening Day, playoff races, stuff like that where you don't want to be around the computer or change game times and stuff.
Find some from the 70s
jdlikewhoa
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TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
That's nowhere near as cool as finding out johnnyeightball.com was available. And yeah, I registered it this morning babby.
doh
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