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2016-17 NBA Season: no IT ITT
- Thread starter silverwheels
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NML
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Kyrie was a two time all star (and in the other season was ROTY) by 21 before Lebron got there
NML
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Crowder would have just stole minutes from higher upside guys in Brown and Tatum, so while he's good and on a great contract, he's redundant. Zizic had the potential to crack the rotation, if not the starting lineup, because they only have Aron Baynes as a true center. Stevens likes to start with Horford at the four and end at the five to save his body a bit. That may have to change this year.
NML
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God those teams were so bad. Their best two players were 18 and 19, then who was third? The corpse of Varejao? Plus Mike Brown as corch?
sayo
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So he's popular and doesn't play in the west?
sayo
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Crowder is exactly what they needed tho.
They also added an Oompa Loompa to guard Curry
evil1
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I think Kyrie is a little better than IT, especially if you are talking about who would be the better #1 option on a team. But in the LeBron's sidekick role, I think IT can give Cleveland as much production as Kyrie did.
With Boston, they are replacing 4 of their 5 starters. I think it may take a season for the new core to adjust and click. So in the very near future, I think Boston a weaker team.
After all of their wheeling and dealing, Boston ended up with a core centered around Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward and Al Horford. This was their master plan? It is arguable whether Kyrie is one of the top 15 players in the NBA, but are either Hayward or Horford? If Boston was willing to trade Avery Bradly, Jae Crowder, next year's Brooklyn pick, and trade down from this year's #1 pick, I think they could have ended up with something more.
With Boston, they are replacing 4 of their 5 starters. I think it may take a season for the new core to adjust and click. So in the very near future, I think Boston a weaker team.
After all of their wheeling and dealing, Boston ended up with a core centered around Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward and Al Horford. This was their master plan? It is arguable whether Kyrie is one of the top 15 players in the NBA, but are either Hayward or Horford? If Boston was willing to trade Avery Bradly, Jae Crowder, next year's Brooklyn pick, and trade down from this year's #1 pick, I think they could have ended up with something more.
NML
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If all that matters is whether or not something affects who wins the title, then nothing matters and we should all visit the 9MM cafe
quit being such a nihilist
Bucksin04
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It's August 23. What else are we going to talk about? Soap operas?
NML
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Well ur ignoring Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Jason Tatum, plus other future picks they have. Those three are as good of a young core as you could ask for.
Considering where this team was a few seasons ago, I'm happy where they are now. Last year's team overachieved and I don't think it was sustainable. I think all these moves focused on shifting the timeline to 2018 - 2020ish - when LeBron is probably out west and they can walk to the finals. Everyone other than Baynes (who is easily replaceable) and Smart (who is restricted and is definitely coming back barring trade) is locked up for the next two years, and only Morris will leave within the next three (at which point he's probably redundant with Brown and Tatum).
They may not be better next year, but they might be able to be the same level and make the finals. Certainly they are set up better after that (unless you think the Brooklyn pick is a franchise changer, which we don't know yet, but probably not).
Id say thats about a 10 pounder
MSUFanatic
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My favorite part about this trade is listening to the talking heads discuss guys like Derrick Rose and a potential reunion of WAIDS and Bron like this is gonna be 2008 for the Cavs roster and suddenly Jae Crowder has become Draymong Green of the East.
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
What more could they have ended up with? I've been an Ainge hater but this is a good deal for them (plus a good deal for the Cavs).
The best part of the deal for Boston is they aren't stuck paying age 30-34 midget $30-35m/year. Irving over the next 4-5 years will be significantly better.
Kyrie, Smart, Hayward, Morris and Horford is going to be a legit contender over the next 3-5 years. The 2nd unit will be productive with Tatum, Brown and Rozier (the first 2 could be starters too). They could land another 2-5 pick this year (via the Lakers) or another lottery pick in 2019 (whichever is higher pick between Sacramento or Philly).
The Celtics should have a nice run in the East with Lebron leaving for LA in 2018 (supposedly).
The Celtics should have a nice run in the East with Lebron leaving for LA in 2018 (supposedly).
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
Yeah maybe but perhaps the Bulls refused to deal him in conference (like George).
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
Comic Sans Gilbert
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
And someone here thought that denial was just a river in Egypt.
NML
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One dude burning a jersey - TRASH ASS FAN BASE
gimme a break. there's plenty of reason Boston fans are trash but this doesn't crack the list
OU misquoting me. I was referring to how any player leaving gets their jersey burned because whoever does it knows they'll get their fifteen minutes of #TRENDING. I can't remember who it was, maybe Paul Millsap? But some completely random player had their jersey burned this summer.
also this
gimme a break. there's plenty of reason Boston fans are trash but this doesn't crack the list
OU misquoting me. I was referring to how any player leaving gets their jersey burned because whoever does it knows they'll get their fifteen minutes of #TRENDING. I can't remember who it was, maybe Paul Millsap? But some completely random player had their jersey burned this summer.
also this
