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2014/15 NBA Thread pelican and okc bitches
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evil1
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So in summary, the Kings traded Stauskas, a mid-first round draft pick, and two players in order to create cap space that they may not be able to use because free agents don't want to go there.
The Knicks are no longer the laughing stock of the NBA.
NML
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Kind of a moo point with Matthews signing, but the Lakers won 21 games last year and the Mavs won 50. Parsons and
Harris are better than anyone on LA not named Kobe - though he's barely played in two years so how can you really quantify that? Dirk > Kobe right now no doubt though.
LA lost everyone too - who's the best player other than Kobe? Swaggy P probably then maybe Julius Randle and his 1 career game. Russell may be good but we don't know.
evil1
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Unless Mavs renege on their offer to Matthews, the DeAndre Jordan signing takes them out of the running for Aldridge. They would have to clear out at least an additional $16 million in cap space.
Now that the Clippers have a hole at center, I think they would be wise to take a look at free agent Kosta Kofous. He won't win you any games, but he can neutralize or break even with the other team's center.
Something that has crossed my mind is whether teams would be willing to help competitors land marquee free agents. Earlier it was suggested that San Antonio could trade Boris Diaw to Cleveland for Brendan Haywood's non-guaranteed contract, which would free up enough space to sign Aldridge. But San Antonio is a team that could easily beat Cleveland in next year's Finals. If you are Cleveland, do you help San Antonio get better?
Likewise Phoenix could sign Aldridge if they can dump salary as part of sign and trade with Dallas as part of signing Tyson Chandler. Would Dallas really be willing to help them out? Would Dallas help them out if it meant Aldridge would go to Phoenix instead of San Antonio or Houston? Hmmmm.
Now that the Clippers have a hole at center, I think they would be wise to take a look at free agent Kosta Kofous. He won't win you any games, but he can neutralize or break even with the other team's center.
Something that has crossed my mind is whether teams would be willing to help competitors land marquee free agents. Earlier it was suggested that San Antonio could trade Boris Diaw to Cleveland for Brendan Haywood's non-guaranteed contract, which would free up enough space to sign Aldridge. But San Antonio is a team that could easily beat Cleveland in next year's Finals. If you are Cleveland, do you help San Antonio get better?
Likewise Phoenix could sign Aldridge if they can dump salary as part of sign and trade with Dallas as part of signing Tyson Chandler. Would Dallas really be willing to help them out? Would Dallas help them out if it meant Aldridge would go to Phoenix instead of San Antonio or Houston? Hmmmm.
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In defense of the Kings, they absolutely have to try and win now or Boogie is going to demand a trade/be a pain in the ass. He's going to be a FA in 2018 so I guess he can't just walk as of yet. If they really think he's a top 10 player then IMO you either try to win now or trade him away and blow everything up.
The Kings are just in a shit situation for FAs. CA has a high tax. They're in one of the least desirable NBA markets.
I kinda think this whole off-season is a last ditch effort to keep and build around Cousins. Maybe it's the wrong play and they should've blown it up but with the new arena, I don't think they can afford not to be making money and competitive.
The Kings are just in a shit situation for FAs. CA has a high tax. They're in one of the least desirable NBA markets.
I kinda think this whole off-season is a last ditch effort to keep and build around Cousins. Maybe it's the wrong play and they should've blown it up but with the new arena, I don't think they can afford not to be making money and competitive.
PSUEagle
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How's Winslow look? And Richardson (who a lot of analytic types really like)?
Think ya'll got a steal in Justise: I was cursing up a blue storm when he fell that Miami couldn't win one more game last season.
Heisman06
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Looked solid. Wasn't their best shooting day but both did a good job of attacking the basket and drawing fouls/FT's. Both showed what we expected on defense. Justise had a couple nice rips/tie-ups.
Miami's summer league team should be pretty competitive. Tyler Johnson and James Ennis saw minutes last season in Miami then you have Zoran Dragic, Winslow, Richardson and PF Willie Reed (I'm a big fan). Throw in Travis Trice and gundyfat.gif Josh Smith for the lulz and you have quality summer entertainment.
PSUEagle
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Thanks.
Did I really see Hassan Whiteside's name on that roster? Surprised he's playing TBH.
Heisman06
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He's on the roster but he isn't expected to play in any games. He's been practicing with them. He's basically been in the gym all summer.
PSUEagle
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Losing Aldridge sucks (obviously), but I like everything else Portland has done sans that Aminu deal. Bringing in a lot of high upside pieces at reasonable cost while resigning Lillard. If a couple hit (like Vonleh) you've got something to go along with your upcoming lottery pick. If not, you'll be able to trade Lillard (to the 76ers?) and fetch a nice return and go full tank.
Olshey did a good job of not panicing and boxing you guys in by resigning everyone else. Blazers have options going forward.
sayo
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Yeah. I don't mind it too much. What upsets me the most is losing the entire starting unit that played so well together the last two years. That Wesley Matthews injury just tore everything apart (Blazers were 2nd in the West at the time iirc).
bjc
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Feel bad but also I'm so excited now. I hope Manu comes back.
dirt
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Mame YO
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I'm not mad at Aldridge. I hope he does well in SA. The entire blazers fanbase knew for years that if he was going to leave it'd be for a Texas team - we just all held onto the hope that the blazers could win enough games to convince him to stay. Matthews' injury doe. What a nail in the coffin.
Im not pleased with the organization right now doe. If the reports coming out about the blazers PR plan are true - asking Aldridge to make the "best blazer ever" statement, planting the Monroe story to the media - then I have an issue with the organization selling us all on false hope.
If the blazers were reel about it, the fans would understand. If the organization traded Aldridge when they had the chance, their fans would understand. There are reports coming out now saying that the blazers knew as early as last season that Aldridge wasn't likely to resign, when he didn't sign that extension it wasn't because of financial reasons... If Aldridge didn't want to stay he didn't want to stay and it's olshey's job to keep the organization moving forward. And that's just it: this is a huge asset management blunder. The #1 pick was traded for love. The blazers let Aldridge walk for nothing. You can call that a gamble, and it was, but if the organization knew Aldridge had one foot out the door they weren't making a very smart gamble and now the blazers have to rebuild. Wiggins, for example, would've softened the blow a lot.
At least NBA 2k association mode with ma'blazers will be fun
Im not pleased with the organization right now doe. If the reports coming out about the blazers PR plan are true - asking Aldridge to make the "best blazer ever" statement, planting the Monroe story to the media - then I have an issue with the organization selling us all on false hope.
If the blazers were reel about it, the fans would understand. If the organization traded Aldridge when they had the chance, their fans would understand. There are reports coming out now saying that the blazers knew as early as last season that Aldridge wasn't likely to resign, when he didn't sign that extension it wasn't because of financial reasons... If Aldridge didn't want to stay he didn't want to stay and it's olshey's job to keep the organization moving forward. And that's just it: this is a huge asset management blunder. The #1 pick was traded for love. The blazers let Aldridge walk for nothing. You can call that a gamble, and it was, but if the organization knew Aldridge had one foot out the door they weren't making a very smart gamble and now the blazers have to rebuild. Wiggins, for example, would've softened the blow a lot.
At least NBA 2k association mode with ma'blazers will be fun
He probably was one foot out of the door but if they had made a real run this year he probably would've resigned. A freak achilles injury killed the blazers organization
doh
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Yes I don't get why you'd completely rebuild when you still have Lillard.
Also it would've been dumb to trade LA last year. Probably not getting much for him/the Matthews injury/why not try to actually win?
NML
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Ed Davis will replace Aldridge really well. Good inside game, good rebounder, but no outside game. Won't be able to do the pick and pop game, but pick and roll will work.
Aldridge leaving will let a very talented Lilliard have the ball more in his hands. LA's usage rate was ridiculous.
Aldridge leaving will let a very talented Lilliard have the ball more in his hands. LA's usage rate was ridiculous.
doh
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I guess Cavs could use the Hayward contract, Varejao and maybe some minor non-guarenteed deal?
And yeah LMA led the NBA in FGA last year (and shot 46%). Two years before he led the league in 2P FGA. He takes a ton of the offense and hasn't ever really shot a great %. There's value in scoring and he's a good player but it kinda seems like people have gone overboard for him this off-season. I guess he's the best of the "legit" FAs (depending on what you really think is going on with LeBron).
And yeah LMA led the NBA in FGA last year (and shot 46%). Two years before he led the league in 2P FGA. He takes a ton of the offense and hasn't ever really shot a great %. There's value in scoring and he's a good player but it kinda seems like people have gone overboard for him this off-season. I guess he's the best of the "legit" FAs (depending on what you really think is going on with LeBron).
sayo
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The Blazers offense was pretty stagnant when he was out (probably a product of the system being built around him more than anything) but I'm excited to see what they can do with him gone. Most people point to his offense, but he is a pretty good defensive big (he used to be pretty bad) and he rebounds well. The defense is going to really struggle without Lopez and Matthews.
NML
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"Dumpster fire" is a bit ridiculous. They still have one of the best 20 players in the league. Borderline playoff team in the tough west.
Ed Davis is probably my favorite cheap signing. Advanced stats love him. Going off the top of my head, but I think his defensive rating is better than LA. But he's not a stretch four so his skill set isn't as valued.
Ed Davis is probably my favorite cheap signing. Advanced stats love him. Going off the top of my head, but I think his defensive rating is better than LA. But he's not a stretch four so his skill set isn't as valued.
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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This is Lillard Peoples team now
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and depending on the carcasses of Tony Parker/Manu Ginobili to be play key minutes... Spurs going to be gr8 but I'd hardly call it a done deal. Warriors, RUSS (with a little health, any help for RUSS/KD), Grizz (if they add backcourt scoring), Rockets (if they play any defense) all have legit chances to make the WCF/Finals. I'd say with a good addition or some luck, the Clippers, Pels and Mavs could be real good... West going to be crazy. Even a young team like the Jazz who ended the season really strong could be good.
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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Not to mention the best corch in the league Billy Donovan GO GATA it is malice the most the pressha the old Spurs and Soft Warriors will be unda GO GATA
Tailback U
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Can't wait for 3-4 teams in the west to lose a role player to injury and then watch the Warriors "get lucky" and win it all again.
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Odds as of July 6 at Bovada
I'll put a buck on the thudner, the great hope of KD resigning depends on it.
Odds as of July 6 at Bovada
- Cleveland Cavaliers 11/4
- Golden State Warriors 9/2
- San Antonio Spurs 9/2
- Oklahoma City Thunder 15/2
- Chicago Bulls 16/1
- Dallas Mavericks 20/1
- Houston Rockets 20/1
- Los Angeles Clippers 20/1
- Memphis Grizzlies 28/1
- Atlanta Hawks 33/1
- New Orleans Pelicans 33/1
- Indiana Pacers 40/1
- Miami Heat 40/1
- Toronto Raptors 40/1
- Washington Wizards 40/1
- Los Angeles Lakers 50/1
- Milwaukee Bucks 50/1
- Boston Celtics 66/1
- Portland Trail Blazers 75/1
- Detroit Pistons 100/1
- Phoenix Suns 100/1
- Utah Jazz 100/1
- Brooklyn Nets 150/1
- Denver Nuggets 150/1
- Minnesota Timberwolves 150/1
- New York Knicks 150/1
- Sacramento Kings 150/1
- Charlotte Hornets 250/1
- Orlando Magic 250/1
- Philadelphia 76ers 250/1
I'll put a buck on the thudner, the great hope of KD resigning depends on it.
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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Whats this i hear about the KKKlipz trying to steal Durant