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I'm interested to see who the Missouri Valley picks up if that's the case. Probably one of Illinois-Chicago, Milwaukee or Valparaiso.
I'm interested to see who the Missouri Valley picks up if that's the case. Probably one of Illinois-Chicago, Milwaukee or Valparaiso.
Is the Valley enough of an upgrade for a Horizon team to want to leave and pay buyouts and entry fees? I'm thinking they'd probably target a Summit school - IUPUI, Western Illinois, or maybe Omaha.
FWIW, 2016-17 Conference RPI:
Missouri Valley - 12
Horizon - 18
Summit - 19
Would not mind Saint Louis and Connecticut going to the Big East but no way the Big East gets rid of the double round-robin.
Better yet, the Big East goes back to its pre-Miami form and a Midwest equivalent is formed with Butler, Creighton, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, Notre Dame, Saint Louis and Xavier. Add Detroit and Tulsa if you want 10 teams.
The above won't happen now but could have in the 80's if DePaul and Notre Dame hadn't been so insistent on staying independent. That set their programs back years.
UConn should commit football suicide. Or see if some fuckshit FCS conference will take them for football only. Basketball needs to be in the Big East. This American shit is awful.
But yeah, they should be in the ACC anyway. Fuck BC.
Knew that was coming.
They won the conference last year, but yeah, because they suck this year, the American is too hard for them. UConn has won two titles in the last seven years. Has anybody else in the American ever even won one? UConn should be playing Georgetown, Nova, Butler, St. John's, etc. not fucking ECU and Tulsa.
So, the big public school should be playing smaller Catlick schools?
I don't think the American is too hard for UConn, but I also think it's disingenuous of UConn fans to blame the AAC for UConn's struggles. There's nothing in the AAC holding back UConn. It's a multibid conference even with two of its traditional powers - Memphis and UConn - having down years.
And, you're comparing Georgetown to ECU, which is absurd. At least compare the tops of the conferences to each other - Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU, Houston. It may not be as deep as the Big East with a few teams no one really wants to play like ECU and Tulane (at least Tulane is trying by hiring Mike Dunleavy), but that's just the realistic cost of an all-sports conference. If Big East basketball means so much more to UConn, then they should move FB to FCS or the MAC (if they'd take them...I doubt it). And frankly, I'm not sure the Big East wants a public school...there's a lot of advantage to not having any conference business subject to public disclosure and being able to do things completely in private.
If Wichita is indeed added, that will add another strong program. I get that UConn doesn't have much history with many of the AAC programs, but at that point, you're talking about a conference that should be getting 5 bids/year if everyone is performing as they should. That's pretty damned good to have that and have a home in a good conference for football.
Butler isn't Catholic. If the Big East cared more about religious affiliation than basketball prowess, they wouldn't have invited them. But regardless, yes, considering they were in a conference together for over 30 years.
I just said they should move football down to FCS. They suck anyway.
The top of the Big East is easily better than the AAC and it's not even close. Houston and SMU have 2 NCAA appearances between them in the last 25 years and you're touting them as the cream of the crop of the AAC. That should tell you something.
I don't give a shit about whether or not the American is making UConn basketball worse or whatever. I care about conferences that make at least some sense geographically and culturally and it makes no sense to have UConn regularly play teams in Greensboro, NC, Tulsa, OK, Houston, TX, and now potentially Wichita, KS and act like anyone is supposed to give a fuck. That's how you get dumb, manufactured shit like the CIVIL CONFLICT. UConn has way more history with the Big East. They were one of the founding members of the conference, but apparently I'm supposed to believe that they don't fit because they're a public school. They were already in the conference with those teams. They should be in the ACC, but because BC is a school for whiners, that's not an option. So the next best thing is to go to a conference that prioritizes your best sport, has less travel coast, is a better cultural fit, and that you have a history with. UConn is never going to be good at football unless they trip over their dick and miraculously hire the next PJ Fleck and even then, that coach would just leave for a better job. They have no chance competing in football with teams in Florida, Texas, Louisiana, and North Carolina.
I mean, you would because it's an easy win. But the American should add Marshall or ODU or something, makes way more sense than UConn.
NCAA Units at this point are starting to mean about as much as TV contracts for smaller basketball leagues.
VCU/Dayton would help too IMO. Outside of that, I can't think of anyone that would help the AAC.
I doubt the Basketball piece of the AAC TV Contract is worth much more than the A-10's TV contract if at all. AAC is $1.5M per team per year for Football and Basketball, whereas A-10 is $350K per team per year.
Wichita State is officially in the AAC/American. I can see a case for divisions to help with travel, but I doubt it happens.
UMass is a more logical addition but will never happen as long as UCONN is a member.
There was a point in time adding UMass, 2-3 basketball schools and NOT adding Tulane + ECU could've kept the Catholic 7 and made sense. It would've been hard to keep both sides happy but I thought they could've had a chance to make it work for a bit.
Now I really don't think there's a reason to add UMass.
I do think ESPN won't really bid on the rights unless they get a great deal on it. The one reason I might take a bit less to stay with ESPN if I were the AAC is ESPN is poised to lose the Big Ten (and probably other rights), so the AAC would get some better TV selections and times. Unless you get a couple games before/after Notre Dame on NBC (or on non-home weeks), I'd very much stay away from NBCSN. Turner would be interesting and I wonder if they want football again. FS1 is bad because they're already packed with Big Ten/XII/Pac.
I do think ESPN won't really bid on the rights unless they get a great deal on it. The one reason I might take a bit less to stay with ESPN if I were the AAC is ESPN is poised to lose the Big Ten (and probably other rights), so the AAC would get some better TV selections and times. Unless you get a couple games before/after Notre Dame on NBC (or on non-home weeks), I'd very much stay away from NBCSN. Turner would be interesting and I wonder if they want football again. FS1 is bad because they're already packed with Big Ten/XII/Pac.
Yeah - I'd agree with all of this. If Big Ten and others continues to leave ESPN, AAC will get better games on there. They already get a good amount of Thursday/Friday and they've given big games a good amount of coverage.I'd rank it as:
ESPN - #1 in publicity and worth taking an offer that is a little smaller than the others. Between losing content and having the best streaming platform, definitely the best reach.
Turner - TBS and TNT have the best distribution of any channel listed, and there's no competition on those networks. They're not traditional sports networks, but the platform is there.
Fox - FS1 has the best non-ESPN reach, but like you say, full of other properties. I'd foresee a lot of FS2 games, which is iffy to me. That's like a shit start time to be on ESPN-News, which we can just as well just be on ESPN-N.
NBC - NBCSN is well distributed and they have a great streaming platform, but it's just one channel. You need games on the Peacock to make it work.
CBS - Garbage. No amount of money would make me want to be a CBS property.
Wichita got that Koch brothers money.
Rutgers Mike money. Which is very unfortunateWhat money does Rutgers have?
Rutgers Mike money. Which is very unfortunate
They earn it every week as a sacrificial lamb with a big TV market.Hell, Rutgers has got that B1G TV money that they uh don't do shit to earn.
Not yet. We are still getting the same payout we got in the Big East.Hell, Rutgers has got that B1G TV money that they don't do shit to earn.
Heard from a UCF source that AAC commish wants to add either North Texas or Charlotte, presumably for the TV markets. Strong opposition from UCF, Cincy, Memphis, & Houston on those. They really want an all-out push for BYU or a solid MWC team.
I feel like App is the best add. TV markets are meaningless; way more people will tune in to watch an App State game than a flipping Charlotte or Tulsa game. Need to put good product on the field first and foremost.
Why North Texas? Doesn’t Southern Methodist cover the Dallas market already.
Kind of wish they get Brigham Young but they probably see themselves as too good for the AAC which is sad because there’s no way in hell they’re getting into the PAC-12 or Big XII. Utah is now the premier program in the state which is hard to fathom if you grew up in the 80’s or 90’s.
Also with Connecticut gone, Temple just seems an odd fit now in the American.
ODU has been terrible but they make sense. Football wise, App State is probably the best eastern option. Army also makes sense if you can convince themBeats the shit out of me on UNT or Charlotte. Old Dominion seems like better fit than either of those with decent fan support and a new state for the AAC. Either way, I’d rather add a team that plays good football like App.
Temple fits alright when you think about Navy right there. I wish they’d build a right-sized stadium though.
Anyway, there is a rumor that if the MWC TV deal tanks that Air Force and Colorado State would be interested. Only thing that sucks about either of those is that it will shift Memphis to the East creating a stacked East (Cincy, Memphis, UCF, USF, Temple, and ECU) and a relatively weak West (AFA/CSU, Houston, Tulane, SMU, Navy, and Tulsa). Even @coogrfan and his boys can’t even choke that too often.