Lloyd Carr
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I've got some contracts out that I hope sign tonight. But I might be knocking on your door this weekend.
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I've got some contracts out that I hope sign tonight. But I might be knocking on your door this weekend.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Yes, because pitching position players (thanks to guys being benched and injured) and having Nicky Suter playing CF (since a sledgehammer to the nuts isn't possible in OOTP) are hallmarks of teams looking to compete. This year I'm going D first and praying the rosary for a .400 win percentage. Try to be a Jordan but settle for a 12th Hard Dick to Give Six Fouls.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
It's too bad you don't GChat or I'd tell you what I told TravSpie.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Normally I don't really see any reason to do them unless it's a guy that's young and unproven (like these international guys that show up as FAs) or it's a guy you're buying ARB years out on and want to try and extend again (greedy fucks like Ploeg). I mean, for Redbeard a TO/PO/VO is just dumb since you're going to overpay the guy for at least three years why not just go for broke.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
And yet for all of your smugness and peacocking you've got nothing to show for it outside of a couple of 500 flags.
A bunch of .500 flags now, actually. 5 straight! >.500 and 4 straight playoffs, both previously UNHEARD OF highs.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Participation Flags, you truly are an American success story.
See that's the thing though. It isn't just participation, it is WINNING. DECADES OF (regular season) DOMINANCE
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
You should really move the team to DC where winning the regular season is held as high as winning it all. See: Capitals two President's Cup and no Stanley Cups, the Nats two post-season first round exits.
Because i wasn't in the offseason tab. just ask whoever sims tonight to do it and it shall be done
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
No worries, sorry if my tone came off as bitchy, totally didn't reread it before I posted to make sure I wasn't being a whiny hoe. I also just noticed I said he wants $1M per year when it's really that he wants $1M MORE per year over what we had agreed on. @Orlando @osick87 just let me know which of you is doing the sim tonight and I'll send you what Ploeg had agreed to on an extension (and yes, it was within the rules).
I was a noted 2 TO person for years in this league, I don't mind it on big contracts because you have to pay them both when you execute the first I think. That 2 TO on the 1.5m contract @NML had made me laugh when I put it in though. I almost made the buyouts 1.5m on each year just because he's an idiot
Nah it wasn't. I just did what was in the offseason report, but if anyone did do extensions I kept the file so we can get those taken care of if necessary. If Osick and Orlando don't want to do it I can put them in tonight.
@Orlando still has to go through and put all the bonuses in tho
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Nah it wasn't. I just did what was in the offseason report, but if anyone did do extensions I kept the file so we can get those taken care of if necessary. If Osick and Orlando don't want to do it I can put them in tonight.
@Orlando still has to go through and put all the bonuses in tho
To me, it's probably pretty close to what he agreed to originally but that guy is greedy af so it looks, to me, like he wanted more in this new extension after the "reboot". I'll shoot all three of you what I think I had though just to be safe.
The option even on small contracts is still valuable because it gives you a longer negotiation window for the next contract and makes trading a good player really easy because you can sign them to a great long term contract and have the next year salary hit be minimal.
I did that with Bert and locked him down for 6 years after the 1M TOs, so when I traded him JD got 1 year at the 1M mark which was nice for him and it makes the contract very easy to trade.
No need, I can pull it up and we can do it exact
Oh I know, that's how I used to game the AI like crazy. I remember when I first found that out back in the 40s, what innocent times we lived in back then. I posted about how I tried out this new fad of signing Karpetbomber 2 years early because his TOs allowed me to and oooooo did Rad turn Mad
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Perfect, thanks!
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Has anyone worked this with a greedy af busta like Ploeg?
yeah but it works best on their first contract going into the second if they haven't fully developed into an all star. Then you can sign them for 5 years at 10m or whatever but really you're locking in the two cheap TOs so it's like a 7 year deal
To me it is my response to the dumb 5 year pre arb limit.
I think this even dates back to UBL
Wait, I don't have an extension signed for Ploeg on the latest old file... you sure he signed one?
This is actually a great reason to have the limit. At least now you have to pay them somewhat close to their value even with your slime ball tactics.
Maybe that's when I found it out with Dean Carter. I can't remember exactly who, but I do remember I brought it back up with Karpet and Rad went nuts
We really could get rid of that limit I think if we find that the arb demands are good enough. Most guys won't sign over 5 anyway, and as long as you wait until after the first arbitration hearing I think it's fine doing whatever you want in terms of length. But we'll see how 17's AI is with those types of demands
We would have to get rid of pre-arb contracts in that case, which is what @Yankee151's argument has been for a long time.
@TonyGin&Juice an offered extension =/= signed. I have had many guys come back from extension offers wanting more. Henny did it just last season. Why you gotta do me like that Henny?!
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
It was in pending for a couple of sims and he said it was perfect. He is a greedy af so who knows but I'm a p0r HAVE NOT so I gotta try and lock down the "talent" while I can before the team becomes the WBL equivalent of the Minnesota T___s.
Yeah, but pending doesn't mean signed. I'll advance the old file and see if he signs.
in OOTP13 they were good and felt great
They are still good. Yankee is wrong.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
The league caters to the way doh loves to play now that we adopted doh rules, so the league must be better.
doh hates almost every rule we have
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
And it cost him a Hamgry Gamez pick.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
FIFY.
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
Let me get this straight: @Mr. Radpants thinks player opt out before a TO year is gaming the AI but signing players with 2 weeks of service time to 8 year deals isn't....
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Can you explain this a little further?
OOTP17 relaxes much more than OOTP16