Amsterdam(@OU11) Gets:
Kabul's 2043 1-1
Kabul's 2044 3rd Rounder
Kabul(@Wolfman21) Gets:
1B Ivan Ruiz (WBL)
SP Yoann "Peppers" Pasquet (A)
Amsterdam's 2044 2nd Rounder
So its exactly as good as it looks on paper Its a good deal though. 1-1 is a valuable asset and you upgraded 2 positions instead of 1. Ruiz would be fine at 1B, because who cares haha. OU got a better pitcher than he gave up, so plus for him too.Well...its not as good as it looks on paper and heres why:
1. Ruiz is a DH all the way. Can't play a lick of defense. Does he have a great bat? In Amsterdam he sure did. How will he do without the stars around him?
2. Peppers isn't as good as Sugar Bear if they both reach their full potential.
This trade fit what I wanted (An upgraded WBL ready bat and a young pitcher) and got OU what he wanted (Both star pitchers in this draft). I'm happy with the deal, but at the same time I don't feel as though I got away with murder.
He essentially got Ruiz and a 2nd for a 3rd.
Peppers isn't much different than Roviva or Garcia.
To be honest, I actually think Peppers is the better SP out of the three of them.
Peppers isn't essentially Nico because there's still some uncertainty. Kabul got an established asset in Ruiz that he knows what he's probably going to get. He gets a less stable asset in Pepper but he has a better idea of what Peppers is going to be than he does with the first overall draft pick. That pick has a long time before he is where Pepper is (3 or 4 years) which is a lot of uncertainty. OU is in a position where he can gamble on that uncertainty. Wolfman wanted more immediate help and usually those assets are easier to figure out a value for.
Edit: Also what those other guys said.
Seems like somebody is going "Well how come he got that toy and I wasn't allowed to have mine." My answer to this as to why Wolfman got to keep his Transformer is because the perceived market value of what Wolfman got in return for the pick is more fair. Every other pitcher worth a shit has been traded for more than a single prospect. Let alone for another proven asset(whatever you value MRs as) and another pick.
Peppers is 18... he isnt exactly a 22 year old ready to go in the WBL.Peppers isn't essentially Nico because there's still some uncertainty. Kabul got an established asset in Ruiz that he knows what he's probably going to get. He gets a less stable asset in Pepper but he has a better idea of what Peppers is going to be than he does with the first overall draft pick. That pick has a long time before he is where Pepper is (3 or 4 years) which is a lot of uncertainty. OU is in a position where he can gamble on that uncertainty. Wolfman wanted more immediate help and usually those assets are easier to figure out a value for.
Edit: Also what those other guys said.
Seems like somebody is going "Well how come he got that toy and I wasn't allowed to have mine." My answer to this as to why Wolfman got to keep his Transformer is because the perceived market value of what Wolfman got in return for the pick is more fair. Every other pitcher worth a shit has been traded for more than a single prospect. Let alone for another proven asset(whatever you value MRs as) and another pick.
There is always one great prospect. Its what makes that pick so valuable. After that there are more and more flaws.Honestly, the #1 pick in THIS draft was probably more valuable than most drafts we've had. There is just zero great talent after the first pick or two in this draft. Comparing my trade with Amsterdam to the Buffalo/Amsterdam deal is laughable IMO.
There is always one great prospect. Its what makes that pick so valuable. After that there are more and more flaws.
If Pasquets was getting drafted this year, he'd be top 2 or 3 pick. I agree with you, Wolfman got a deal.
Peppers is better than Funky i think.He would be #3 more than likely. Which is why I think that I got a deal, but its not as large of a deal as people think. OU got the best two players in the draft by a LONGSHOT and he gave up a DH and a pitcher in A ball(which he aptly replaced).
Peppers is better than Funky i think.
I think you are underestimating this draft class. I dont think Cliff is equal to Funky. I was surprised Weber fell to me. I think he is better than a few of the "studs" you listed haha.