2019 MINSHEW

[DanishDonut0]

Has there ever been a study of the general population? I was thinking about this today. Studies like these look bad. But they are skewed pretty badly as well. Brains donated by people who think their loved ones had issues. Even among NFL players this doesn't give us the whole picture. What is the rate of CTE among the general population? Is it rare or is it more common than we believe? Doing some searching on google journalists throw out 3-4 times more likely than the general population. But I cant find any info on where they derive this information.

Of course there is a lot further to go but I don't see how this study looks bad. It is the largest cohort for CTE and science is made in steps. Previous largest was 48 athletes (McKee et al, 2009). If you actually read the NYT article...

About 1,300 former players have died since the B.U. group began examining brains. So even if every one of the other 1,200 players had tested negative — which even the heartiest skeptics would agree could not possibly be the case — the minimum C.T.E. prevalence would be close to 9 percent, vastly higher than in the general population.

And regarding your other questions, from a write up on the study:

Spoiler

Traumatic brain injury (TBI) is a major public health concern, affecting an estimated 10 million people worldwide per year and more than 40% of US residents over the course of a lifetime. Mild TBI, also referred to as concussion, is defined as blunt, nonpenetrating head trauma associated with transient symptoms (eg, headache, nausea, dizziness, visual changes, confusion, or difficulty concentrating) and accounts for more than 80% of all TBI cases. Beyond the morbidity of the immediate trauma, patients who experience mild TBI are at increased risk of developing neurological and psychiatric disorders later in life. The majority of TBI is caused by motor vehicle crashes and falls, although brain injuries also occur during participation in contact sports, with an estimated 1.6 million to 3.8 million sports-related concussions occurring in the United States per year.

The diagnosis of CTE in the present study was made blinded to clinical information, applying recently published consensus criteria developed by a panel of experts convened by the National Institutes of Health.

As the investigators acknowledge, such a sample is likely to be biased to include more impaired individuals who experienced significant neuropsychiatric decline during life, thus prompting their family members to pursue brain donation.

(Advances and Gaps in Understanding Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy From Pugilists to American Football Players - Gil D. Rabinovici 2017)

 

[ZackMills]

Poor guy probably already caught the CTE.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...fensive-lineman-john-urschel-retires-abruptly

 

[Lightningwar]

Of course there is a lot further to go but I don't see how this study looks bad. It is the largest cohort for CTE and science is made in steps. Previous largest was 48 athletes (McKee et al, 2009). If you actually read the NYT article...

I meant it looks bad for Football.

And regarding your other questions, from a write up on the study:

Spoiler

(Advances and Gaps in Understanding Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy From Pugilists to American Football Players - Gil D. Rabinovici 2017)

I did read the article and am asking what is the prevalence within the general population? I am honestly curious. Vastly higher tells me the rate in general population is what, 1%, 3%, 5%, 7% if only 9% of football players develop CTE?

 

[kella]

God I love these

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-cleveland-browns-1797293528

As for the rest of the depth chart, there’s living concussion Cody Kessler, who is the lone holdout from last season’s barge fire. And then there is DeShone Kizer. You might remember DeShone from the time he was benched by shrieking mangoblin Brian Kelly, or the time he boasted that he was Tom Brady in Cam Newton’s body:

“Why can’t I be the greatest? The only thing stopping me from it is me.”​

My friend, the Cleveland Browns will almost certainly have something to say about that. I’m just glad that DeShone quickly blamed the uproar over that quote over lack of context. It’s like RG3 tutored him in Transparent Phoniness without even meeting him! It will not shock you to learn that the list of Notre Dame QBs drafted since 1980 is almost as sad as the list of Browns quarterbacks through that same timeframe:

• Jimmy Clausen
• Brady Quinn
• Jarious Jackson
• Rick Mirer
• Steve Beuerlein
• Blair Kiel
• Rusty Lisch

What a pedigree. They may as well have drafted someone from a prison team. I’m gonna go have a seltzer.[.quote]

 

[Southpaw]

Beurlein was at least decent. The rest though...

 

[goblue96]

Rusty Lisch?

 

[Yankee151]

I always enjoy the general berating of the city of Tampa each year

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

The FORESKINZ hired Jim "the color of the tires on this '86 Escort match the color of your eyes Ms Ramirez" Tomsula as DC? Wow. Did they find him hustling blowjobs in the Bonefish Grill with Lirch in Ashburn and decide he was an improvement over "ask Madden"?

Good on the FORESKINZ for being "Philthy" Phil Taylor back from the dead. He was really great with Motörhead at the '87 Brixton show I attened on my 25th birthday.

 

[Wuf]

God I love these

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-cleveland-browns-1797293528

"Join us in Week 8 when Brock gets hurt accidentally sticking his ostrich wing into a fucking ceiling fan."

 

[kella]

I actually have no desire for the Redskins to be competent on the back end or a good football team on the front end. It is far, far more entertaining for both to be a complete shit show.

I feel the complete opposite about all the other local teams...which really says something about how detestable the Skins are as an entity in general.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

I actually have no desire for the Redskins to be competent on the back end or a good football team on the front end. It is far, far more entertaining for both to be a complete shit show.

I feel the complete opposite about all the other local teams...which really says something about how detestable the Skins are as an entity in general.

With Little Danny Snyder at the helm for the foreseeable future the odds of the FORESKINZ being a complete clown show are very high (probability: 99.9999%). Nothing makes me happier than the "Misery Mondays" on the Fan when every mouthbreathing Maryland moron calls in to cry about about their Skins getting crushed in humiliating fashion. I almost wish I could watch the BMitch aftershow because that guy's hate for Dan Snyder and the FORESKINZ is unmatched.

I refuse to accept you want the overhyped Capitals to do anything other suck anii from here on out. The Wizards are whatever and the Nats are choke artists but the Caps and FORESKINZ? If they could finish in dead last in embarrassing fashion for the rest of my life (about five years) I might accept Jebus Cristo as my lord and savior.

 

[kella]

I feel bad for Leonsis because he's tried to do right by his teams, but ended up with GMGM and Ernie fucking Grunfeld running the show so he is doomed for another 10 years at least.

BMitch is great and always sounds like he's commenting on Monday Night Raw, not doing sports studio work.

How often did you listen to the idiot Junkies? I hate-listen for 9 minutes every morning. EB and Lurch are legitimate idiots who would probably be lifetime employees at a Motel 8 or something if they didn't luck into this job.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

I feel bad for Leonsis because he's tried to do right by his teams, but ended up with GMGM and Ernie fucking Grunfeld running the show so he is doomed for another 10 years at least.

I don't know man, would you have given John Wall that max-max contract? If I were Leonsis I would have fired them all for that but he also let Grunfeld draft that shithead Nick Young and that complete bum Jan Vesely. That 2010-2011 team with "Old Man" Yi Jianlian was just horrible, made me almost feel bad for the overcooked hotdog with the mystic tan.

 

[kella]

Yes because NBA cap rules are dumb and I don't think he counts as a full 40m a year or whatever because he's "home grown". Despite it all being guaranteed he's just entering his prime and should be good for it.

 

[kella]

I don't know man, would you have given John Wall that max-max contract? If I were Leonsis I would have fired them all for that but he also let Grunfeld draft that shithead Nick Young and that complete bum Jan Vesely. That 2010-2011 team with "Old Man" Yi Jianlian was just horrible, made me almost feel bad for the overcooked hotdog with the mystic tan.

I think he's also responsible for Andray Blatche. Drafting outside of the first 5 picks can be pretty hit or miss sometimes but MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS is almost fucking impossible.

 

[goblue96]

Your coach: Kyle “Evil Dan Savage” Shanahan. This February, the Falcons played the worst half in American sports history and the 49ers just hired the guy responsible for it. Football Jared Kushner here blew the Super Bowl by calling a grand total of FIVE running plays with a 28-3 lead and a fucking turbocharged backfield. Five running plays. Jesus Christ. But don’t worry! I’m sure that Saddleface Jr. already has a plan to anonymously blame those playcalls on other people.

The Shanahan/York Bashing is strong with this one.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-san-francisco-49ers-1797328541

 

[jdlikewhoa]

So the Cowboys cut Lucky Whitehead because they thought he was arrested for shoplifting. Turns out just a guy with the same name. Nice work jerry lol.

Lol. Welcome to the Lanier-era NFL

 

[DanishDonut0]

The Shanahan/York Bashing is strong with this one.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-san-francisco-49ers-1797328541

York the worst of all kinds. Also a well known teetotaller so fuck him.

 

[GR8 2 B FL G8R]

I feel bad for Leonsis because he's tried to do right by his teams, but ended up with GMGM and Ernie fucking Grunfeld running the show so he is doomed for another 10 years at least.

BMitch is great and always sounds like he's commenting on Monday Night Raw, not doing sports studio work.

How often did you listen to the idiot Junkies? I hate-listen for 9 minutes every morning. EB and Lurch are legitimate idiots who would probably be lifetime employees at a Motel 8 or something if they didn't luck into this job.

It's Motel 6 or Super 8
.

 

[kella]

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-chicago-bears-1797391407

@Orlando

 

[Karl Hungus]

"Bortlesish tall stiff" LMAO

 

[Travis7401]

WYTS is so great, especially when you consider Colin Kaepernick is still a free agent! AT LEAST MIKE GLENNON ISN'T A DISTRACTION!

 

[kella]

"You guys thought you hated Jay Cutler, but it turns out that you really just hated being alive!"

 

[Orlando]

Appreciate the @, but Magary is the worst.

 

[kella]

I got free tickets last year to the Bears-Titans game at Soldier Field and went with my brother in law (huge Titans fan) my dad and some of my cousins. The game was boring, and of course the Bears lost (not without mounting a comeback in the fourth quarter that we missed because we wanted to beat traffic). However, the absolute worst part of the day was listening to the mouth breathing west suburban fans in front of us drone on and on about how they can never forgive Ditka for not getting Walter Peyton a TD in Super Bowl XX and instead letting the fridge score. Literally these guys discussed this for 25 minutes. I would like to think that this is an uncommon occurrence, but I have heard the same conversation at least a dozen times.

 

[bruin228]

That Bears-Jags video just perfectly encapsulates the NASHNUL fan. All these people should be vaporized.

 

[Reel]

Just read a tweet on my timeline where some dude was asked about CTE, he responded saying something like "the football field is the perfect place to die"

SMH

 

[fried rice]

Just read a tweet on my timeline where some dude was asked about CTE, he responded saying something like "the football field is the perfect place to die"

SMH

Two former LSU football players (Jamal Adams and Morris Claiborne) have mentioned something about the football field being a good place to die.

 

[Karl Hungus]

Two former LSU football players (Jamal Adams and Morris Claiborne) have mentioned something about the football field being a good place to die.

 

[GR8 2 B FL G8R]

Two former LSU football players (Jamal Adams and Morris Claiborne) have mentioned something about the football field being a good place to die.

They should face the God Emperor and say "nos morituri salutamus"

 

[Yankee151]

Love Ma'gary's Jacksonville bashing today. I really don't know a single Jags fan who lives outside of North Florida or has a full set of teeth.

Nah. The Bears are just bad, but you have to go some to reach the Browns or Jags level. That’s like a level below the Jets. If somebody tells me they’re a Bears fan I laugh with them about their team. If somebody says they’re a Jaguars fan I study them. What makes them tick? They’re rare creatures. It’s like spotting a black rhinoceros.
I’m convinced that Jags fans are actually deconstructing the concept of being a fan. Like maybe they’re really into wide receivers kicking balls into the DB’s hands, or they’re fascinated with empty seats.

 

[Orlando]

It's basically like forcing yourself to read @TonyGin&Juice posts

 

[Yankee151]

There's a nonzero chance they are the same person

 

[Brick]

Nothing like a tattoo artist with face blindness:

 

[Southpaw]

 

[GR8 2 B FL G8R]

Yeah Obummer looks straight and Michelle doesn't look like a tranny

Dem traps

 

[GR8 2 B FL G8R]

Rishard got another man's face tatted on his fucking body, so it does make some sense

 

[kella]

He looks more like Dani Alves

 

[goblue96]

Biden has the same tattoo in a NSFW location.

 

[Brick]

Old, but this is the most NASHNUL thing ever. PRESS CONFERENCE CORCH

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/10...al-developments-in-2013-interview-with-bears/

In a Wednesday article, 670 The Score host and Tribune special contributor Mike Mulligan shed some new light on some of Arians’ dealings with the Bears. As Mulligan wrote, Arians was “bothered” by several developments when he interviewed with the Bears in early 2013.
From the Tribune:

For one, (Arians) was asked to do a mock news conference in the course of his interview. Apparently it wasn’t enough that he was the reigning coach of the year after taking over the Colts and had been doing news conferences all year.
The mock news conference was a variation on the actual news conferences that the Bears requested of Smith and runner-up Russ Grimm in 2004 after failing to come to terms with Nick Saban. The message is that perception matters as much as performance to the Bears.​

 

[kella]

@ZackMills

 

[Brick]

6'4" 235

Lookin' good!

 

[Reel]

 

[Yankee151]

It really is amazing how many godawful QB staffs there are in the NFL. So many teams have 3 guys who wouldn't even make the Patriots' roster

 

[goblue96]

@ZackMills

Amazing. Only the Jets could sign Tim Tebow and then find the one quarterback IN HISTORY who could make Tebow look like Chris fucking Kyle. Every time Christian Hackenberg throws a ball, it’s like he’s throwing it for the first time. “What is this strange oblong spheroid you’ve handed me? It certainly presents challenges from an aerodynamic perspective! Do I throw it using my hand or some sort of crude slingshot?” He’ll get the hang of it one day.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-new-york-jets-1797496551

 

[whiteyc_77]

@ZackMills

Christian Hackenberg sucks.

But that was an awful route and effort by the WR.

-YTC

 

[R2D2]

Christian Hackenberg sucks.

But that was an awful route and effort by the WR.

-YTC

I agree curl routes are lame. In an actual game, the WR probably jumps and makes the catch though.

 

[whiteyc_77]

There's nothing wrong with curl routes. It's just that particular route by that WR was trash. Slow out of his break, and made no effort to reach up.

 

[Orlando]

You'll tom bout practice?

 

[doh]

Time of the year when people go crazy over practice is peak NASHNUL