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NCAA Basketball And Clownzano Twitter Aggregation Thread

adchester

adchester

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When Minnesota gets a 5 and Wisconsin gets an 8 after beating MN twice and finishing better in conference:

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Wuf

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Wisconsin definitely got jobbed too.

Can't wait for that faggot Boeheim whine his way to the NIT
 
Brick

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Love Oregon's draw despite the 3 seed. Winner of Creighton and Rhode Island? How does Creighton get a 6 with the way they finished? Louisville has to face either Michigan or Oklahoma State. Rough second round game.
 
Wuf

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Really hope Wichita beats Kentucky as vengeance for Kentucky beating them as a 1 seed. That Kentucky team being an 8 seed was ridiculous
 
DeadMan

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Got damn, I'm annoyed at the committee. Michigan wins 4 games in 4 days, pushing their record to 12-3 in March and February. Their reward is the 24th ranked KenPom team in Oklahoma State. And then Louisville is probably the worst matchup as a 2 seed for Michigan. Bleh. Big Ten tournament win is a good season, but I thought they'd be really dangerous in the real tournament, too. Doesn't seem like it now.
 
JAR201166

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DeadMan said:
Got damn, I'm annoyed at the committee. Michigan wins 4 games in 4 days, pushing their record to 12-3 in March and February. Their reward is the 24th ranked KenPom team in Oklahoma State. And then jsu probably the worst matchup as a 2 seed for Michigan. Bleh. Big Ten tournament win is a good season, but I thought they'd be really dangerous in the real tournament, too. Doesn't seem like it now.
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NML

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Six of kenpom's top nine will face off in the second round (assuming they don't lose in round one). Zaga(1)/WVU(5), Flawda(9)/Virgina(7), Kentucky(4)/Witchita(8).

I liked WVU's chances of the Elite 8 until they drew Gonzaga as their 1. I think if they beat ISU they get to be a 3 and the road is much easier.
 
DeadMan

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Pretty sure a 4 and 1 can't meet until the sweet 16. But yeah, the committee's seeding was insane. They were just completely lying about using KenPom. They were still relying on idiotic RPI.
 
kella

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And they play Dayton, because of course. Happened in 03 against Tulsa as well.
 
DeadMan

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Other dumb seedings:

Saint Mary's a 7 (14 in KenPom)
Minnesota a 5 (33 in KenPom)
Arizona a 2 (20 in KenPom)
Wisconsin an 8 (23 in KenPom)
Oklahoma State a 10 (24 in KenPom)

The committee has no idea how to handle good mid-major teams (Wichita State and Saint Mary's) or major teams with resumes that fall apart under closer scrutiny (Minnesota, Arizona).
 
adchester

adchester

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DeadMan said:
Other dumb seedings:

Saint Mary's a 7 (14 in KenPom)
Minnesota a 5 (33 in KenPom)
Arizona a 2 (20 in KenPom)
Wisconsin an 8 (23 in KenPom)
Oklahoma State a 10 (24 in KenPom)

The committee has no idea how to handle good mid-major teams (Wichita State and Saint Mary's) or major teams with resumes that fall apart under closer scrutiny (Minnesota, Arizona).
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Honestly I think Minnesota actually has a strong resume, just not 5 seed strong. Only 2 bad losses (Penn State, Ohio State) and road wins at Purdue, Northwestern, and Maryland. I wouldn't say it "falls apart" but they should've been a 6 or 7.

I think Minnesota just looks bad because Wisconsin is an 8 for some dumb reason.
 
DeadMan

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To me, Minnesota's resume looks almost exactly the same at Michigan's or Wisconsin's. Yet they're a 5 while the other two are a 7 and 8. Doesn't make sense, unless you're looking at RPI.

EDIT: I'm also annoyed because TV Teddy caused a 4 point swing in the Michigan-Minnesota game with a ridiculous technical foul on the bench. And, honestly, that's probably the difference which Michigan getting to a 6 seed.
 
adchester

adchester

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DeadMan said:
To me, Minnesota's resume looks almost exactly the same at Michigan's or Wisconsin's. Yet they're a 5 while the other two are a 7 and 8. Doesn't make sense, unless you're looking at RPI.

EDIT: I'm also annoyed because TV Teddy caused a 4 point swing in the Michigan-Minnesota game with a ridiculous technical foul on the bench. And, honestly, that's probably the difference which Michigan getting to a 6 seed.
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Right but I think Wisconsin(2-3 seeds) and Michigan(1-2) were under seeded while Minnesota was only probably 1 seed too high. If Wisconsin was also a 5 and Michigan was a 6, it may have looked a little high but not as ridiculous as it does now.
 
Brick

Brick

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DeadMan said:
Other dumb seedings:

Saint Mary's a 7 (14 in KenPom)
Minnesota a 5 (33 in KenPom)
Arizona a 2 (20 in KenPom)
Wisconsin an 8 (23 in KenPom)
Oklahoma State a 10 (24 in KenPom)

The committee has no idea how to handle good mid-major teams (Wichita State and Saint Mary's) or major teams with resumes that fall apart under closer scrutiny (Minnesota, Arizona).
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Arizona lost 4 games all year, and their "worst" loss is to #4 seed and kenpom #26 Butler. They're hardly under-seeded. The Pac-12 is probably the worst major conference this year, but there are 32 conferences in D1 and it's not the Big Sky or something. I do value teams who beat who they should, especially in a 34 game season. Two teams have better records than them in the country.

Wisconsin is 4-6 in their past 10 games. I love kenpom's ratings and they're a superior system to every metric I've seen, but they don't give enough weight to wins or recency as I'd like. Virginia is #7? They've lost 7 of their last 13 games. There are 8 teams ranked above Arizona that have double their number of losses or more.

Oklahoma State, St. Mary's, and Wichita make little sense.
 
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Brick

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I keep looking at Syracuse's schedule and cackling at these fools. They lost to #160 Boston College on the road by 15. They lost at home to #94 St. John's by 33. They lost 12 other games. Of course you're going to have a handful of "quality wins" when you play good teams all of the time. They have no business being anywhere near the tournament.
 
kella

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Brick said:
I keep looking at Syracuse's schedule and cackling at these fools. They lost to #160 Boston College on the road by 15. They lost at home to #94 St. John's by 33. They lost 12 other games. Of course you're going to have a handful of "quality wins" when you play good teams all of the time. They have no business being anywhere near the tournament.
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Same as last year when they ended up getting hot and winning 3 or 4 games. Lawd.
 
kella

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Dayton really fucked theirselfs by losing to god damn Davidson in the first round of the A10 tourney. As of a few days ago they were a 6.5 point dog at a virtual home game as the 7 seed.
 
kella

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Are you in the ballroom at a Marriott?
 
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Farrell looks like a 40 year old man
 
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