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2080 DRAFT EXTRAVAGANZA!
- Thread starter Travis7401
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Here's the draft analysis from the live draft!
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
All those tabs, lawd
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
He's good, though.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
Yeah. The organizers definitely should've been more clear when they explained over many days that this would be a first round "live" draft with a 5 minute clock, complete with a voice chat.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
You weren’t jerking off?
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
I'm confused that someone is confused about what a live draft is
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Something went wrong as I did bump Cairos down to 15th. HOWEVER, I would have still picked him with my second rounder anyway and I got three players high on my list. @Yankee151 @Travis7401 , some of the players you had ranked above Cairos my scout had as junk too.
I have an 8m amateur scouting budget and he thinks he's great -
I have an 8m amateur scouting budget and he thinks he's great -
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hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
@Travis7401 @Karl Hungus @Yankee151 , Is this draft even valid anyway? I should have had the 4th and 14th not the 5th and 15th. I thought we didn't do compensatory picks? It pisses me off that my 15th pick was taken with 14 off my draft board. I was never told this.
I remember I had Cairos at 15th on my list in order that I picked him at the second round. The whole draft has been borked for me because of that extra pick. I could have had a better player at 14.
Even if there is some fuckery to your logic over this, I never knew, and my drafting has been affected.
I remember I had Cairos at 15th on my list in order that I picked him at the second round. The whole draft has been borked for me because of that extra pick. I could have had a better player at 14.
Even if there is some fuckery to your logic over this, I never knew, and my drafting has been affected.
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hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
I never knew this, so it's all a load of bullshit tbh. Why the fuck didn't someone tell me. All @Karl Hungus has ever said to me is we don't do comps, and I set my draft list up for the 4th and 14th. You lot have fucked me around.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
For clarification @Yankee151 , @Karl Hungus @Travis7401 - I even had a whole conversation with Travis when I thought I had the 11th pick. He was adamant -
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
@Mr. Radpants is going to be so pissed
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Why the fuck couldn't I get a comp two years ago when I couldn't sign my 1st rounder then? Fucking rules different for each player. I was told by @Karl Hungus absolutely no comps on that or any other occasion. This is definitely some serious fuckery. I mean I didn't even know how to fucking draft and screwed it up for two years hardly knowing how or who to sign, but fucking Sean gets a comp pick because you're all in your fucking little circle jerk of friends and he needs more picks. It doesn't matter if Hayvis doesn't know the new draft order either and it fucks over a whole weekends worth of draft listing... And you all think @Wooly is a fucking meddler...
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
@Yankee151 @Karl Hungus - I think the fair thing to do would to be to redraft and either STICK to the rules of no compensatory picks, or give me another 1st rounder, for the fact that
1 - I spent a year not knowing how to draft and seriously ruined a year of drafting worse than Otto could have managed.
2 - Two years ago I couldn't sign my 1st rounder because of the glitch and nothing was done and no comp was given.
3 - You gave Sean a free 1st because he couldn't sign an Otto pick which goes against everything I was told.
4 - The draft order changed without me knowing this year.
It seems there is one rule for me and another for the close circle of original owners.
1 - I spent a year not knowing how to draft and seriously ruined a year of drafting worse than Otto could have managed.
2 - Two years ago I couldn't sign my 1st rounder because of the glitch and nothing was done and no comp was given.
3 - You gave Sean a free 1st because he couldn't sign an Otto pick which goes against everything I was told.
4 - The draft order changed without me knowing this year.
It seems there is one rule for me and another for the close circle of original owners.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Karl was on that thread, I don't see why he didn't fucking say something. But everything aside - the fact that some can get comps and others who are probably far more justified in getting comps are told to fuck off is just bullshit.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
@Karl Hungus @Yankee151 - Fyi, here's some of the evidence for how I have come to formulate my opinion on all of this -
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
It doesn't work out at all. One of the 14 picked before me would have fallen to me at 14 and all but one were in the top 14 on my draft board. I would have therefore had over a 90% chance of picking a better player than Nelson, whether my second round choice was Cairos or not.
One of the reasons why I'm so angry is because I deliberately didn't complain about the time of the live draft, even though I would have liked to attend (I thought I had to concede because of my location). I instead worked all weekend on what I thought was my perfect auto-board out so that Cairos would fall to me in the second and get two great picks in the first. You neither made it convenient for me to attend, nor actually let my draft list work as it should have. You robbed me of letting this play out realistically for me, and I've ended up with lesser prospects.
@Karl Hungus
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Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
You should have ordered BPA period and listed enough players for a buffer. It doesn’t make sense that you would have Libertard higher than anyone you had higher on your big bor
You’re also overreacting a bit, maybe because they made fun of your pick? Just ignore them, your scout likes him and Travis’ spreadsheets aren’t the gold standard of who will be good.
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Mr. Radpants
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You get a comp pick when the players are “Impossible” to sign for you. It’s impossible to tell that from the draft website.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
I had Cairos at 15 on my otto list to fall to me in th 2nd. My 1 - 14 would have been one of the guys drafted above me. It's fucked over my draft.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Because you got your 15th ranked player instead of your 14th ranked player?
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
That happened to me in 2078 or 77, can't remember. Didn't know what was happening, so left it thinking I would get a comp (that's what it said). Then Karl tells me we don't do comps.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Which is a big deal, because my 15th ranked player was well below my 14th, and intended to be my second round pick.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
@Mr. Radpants - I spent more time on arranging that top 14 than the rest of my draft board put together, as it was more important to me.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
@Karl Hungus @Mr. Radpants @NML @Travis7401 This is the way this league has gone for me -
1 - Get given one of the hardest, fucked up teams to take over.
2 - Fuck up the draft and finances even more in the first two years, as I thought you could learn on the job
3 - Get bailed out (to a level a lot lower than when I took over)because I fucked the finances.
4 - Everyone feels sorry for me and gives me some help, but with a lot of sarcasm and shtick.
5 - I finally feel like I can run the team, even though I am having to do it on scraps.
6 - I have major plans for my big chance in the draft (traded for it) to turn my prospect situation around so spend a long time on it.
7 - Draft order moves, but hey that's the way it goes, and you know someone needs a comp when we couldn't give you one even though you had the same thing.
And you wonder why recruits tend to give up.
1 - Get given one of the hardest, fucked up teams to take over.
2 - Fuck up the draft and finances even more in the first two years, as I thought you could learn on the job
3 - Get bailed out (to a level a lot lower than when I took over)because I fucked the finances.
4 - Everyone feels sorry for me and gives me some help, but with a lot of sarcasm and shtick.
5 - I finally feel like I can run the team, even though I am having to do it on scraps.
6 - I have major plans for my big chance in the draft (traded for it) to turn my prospect situation around so spend a long time on it.
7 - Draft order moves, but hey that's the way it goes, and you know someone needs a comp when we couldn't give you one even though you had the same thing.
And you wonder why recruits tend to give up.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Also, because Cairos went 15th, it then brought guys in to play I didn't want to. It's made me basically skip a pick. My plan was to have one of my top 14 guys, and then Cairos at 20, or someone beneath.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Is this real life?
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
No it's a fucking shit game that always seems to find a way of pissing me off.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
YOU'RE not in a good mood now? I wondered why I had 8 notifications. Now I know. Feel free to keep acting like we haven't bent over backwards for you and your team to try and get Paris up and running. We drafted off your list. Did you get the players you wanted? Yes or no.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
McNulty what did I do? I voted against this and said that I hate lists, lol. I was called a bitch maid and probably added to Travis’ timeout Ignore list.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
I will say that it was FUN as a semi-attendee.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Honestly Karl. I was looking forward to this draft because I now finally know the basics of the game, and instead of insisting on it being earlier so I could attend, I spent a shit load of time preparing a draft list for shit to happen when I'm not there.
No I didn't get the right players. One of the guys above Cairos would have been my pick at 14 and Cairos would have been there at 20. It just takes any fun I had sorting this out away.
You all bent over backwards when you realised I was struggling to the point of non-participation. I know you probably don't care if I'm in the league or not, but it got to the point where there was no reason for me still being there over Otto. My finances were reshaped, but they are less still than when I took over. Why does Lisbon get a comp, when you told me no comps, even when I fucked up two drafts and saw at least one first rounder disappear because I couldn't sign him?
At this point, I really don't see the point of me being in the league (although as I've said before I will stay if only to piss you all off). I need help (which doesn't make me exactly feel brilliant), most of you (not you) are usually sarcastic about that help, and then when I do finally get some fun together out of the game, you change the rules and I get my immersion taken away.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
now I know how a Wooly gets made.
jdlikewhoa
Well-Known Member
My dick is so hard right now. It’s good to know this isn’t just an American thing. It’s a human thing.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Hayvis’ Wooly rating this morning is VERY HIGH
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
I would genuinely like to know how this draft is valid, when my draft positions aren't what I'm told? And I would like to know why I'm told we don't do comps and someone else gets a comp for the same reason I didn't get given one two seasons ago which ends up being the reason my draft position is bumped down?
I mean, I know I'm over the fucking top with this, but it's not like I don't have a point. I don't think it's particularly relevant to say that my finances were sorted out, and I've been given a few tips so I have to shut up about this. I do think that's a completely different issue.
I mean, I know I'm over the fucking top with this, but it's not like I don't have a point. I don't think it's particularly relevant to say that my finances were sorted out, and I've been given a few tips so I have to shut up about this. I do think that's a completely different issue.
TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Definitely not a good example of the "stiff upper lip" my friend. Which BUM did you have next on ur list anyway? Maybe we can come to an EQUITABLE solution to this without INVALIDATING this draft that I completely forgot about.
Hayvis got the player he had listed #3 at #5 and the player he listed #9 at #14. Would have had the exact same players a pick earlier
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
I changed my order. Cairos was 15th when I went to bed last night. I only had him at 9th, because if you look I had everyone sorted by position.