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Southpaw Gon' Look Are you from PD looking for evidence on @brick, sir? The Miami Hurricanes Thread aka Baseless Rumors Corner

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
I just don't get the Cristobal hate. But I suppose it's par for the course at this point.

Can the guy recruit? Yes. Can he bring in coordinators? Nobody knows and there's only one way to find out.

Those two things are 95% of the job. The other 5% is not wasting timeouts on defense and not kicking stupid FGs.
 

Rutgers Mike

Dr. Sad
I just don't get the Cristobal hate. But I suppose it's par for the course at this point.

Can the guy recruit? Yes. Can he bring in coordinators? Nobody knows and there's only one way to find out.

Those two things are 95% of the job. The other 5% is not wasting timeouts on defense and not kicking stupid FGs.

I'm sure Cristobal's wife would like to see him get the job so she can move back to Miami.

I don't know if he's good enough or not, He had a couple good years, then got fired after a bad one, but it's not like FIU was good before him or after.
 

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
FIU wasn't just bad before Cristobal got there, it was a complete cesspool.

And what kills me about the people hating on Cristobal is they're the same people clamoring for Butch. I'll say again what I said a few weeks ago: what was Butch's claim to fame? What defense did he pioneer?

He was a great recruiter and he brought in great assistants (ironically, assistants that the ever-irate Miami "fans" now consider utterly incompetent: Coker, Schiano, Shannon....).

That's it. That was Butch's schtick. And it's good enough at Miami because it's the best-situated campus on the planet when it comes to recruiting.

So anybody who's pining for Butch but would shit on Cristobal should be made to defend that position, because it's incoherent.
 

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
I'd also be fine with the worst coach in the Pac-12. What's his name? Mike Leach?

I thought they should have hired Leach last time.
 

Mr. Radpants

Trog Five Standing By
Chud or Butch if we're going ex-connect. Wouldn't hate Mario either. I don't pretend to be an expert, could root for any of them. Homer Simpson back into the bush.
 

PSUEagle

Well-Known Member
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CJ_24

Well-Known Member
Corch B. Mack. Already lives in south florida. Cheapest hire you could make. Has a knack for recreating and even improving the glory days.

I feel there would be an inevitable Pitino-style escort scandal that follows the hiring of corch B. Mack.

Not that I would frown on that sort of skulduggery.
 

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
Bruce Feldman's take: Fuente and Herman are going to have better offers than Miami, and among the people left after they're out, Cristobal is the best option.

I agree. I also can't help but notice that the anti-Cristobal crowd hasn't ever articulated any actual reasons it doesn't make sense.

1. Mario Cristobal, Alabama offensive line coach, 45: He’s spent the past three seasons working under Nick Saban and was named the National Recruiter of the Year this winter after helping the Tide reel in, among others, Calvin Ridley, Daron Payne and Minkah Fitzpatrick, three of the nation’s top freshmen. No one is any more plugged into South Florida in college coaching than Cristobal, a Miami native and former standout O-lineman at UM. Cristobal has head coaching experience, having spent six seasons transforming FIU from by far the worst program in Division I into one that went to two bowl games. He also has a good eye for coaching talent, having hired Scott Satterfield, Geoff Collins and Todd Orlando — three of the more respected up-and-comers in the college game — and played a key role in helping Greg Schiano flip Rutgers from laughing stock status.

Cristobal’s teams were fast and physical. They beat eventual co-Big East champion Louisville and then C-USA power UCF, two programs with much greater resources than FIU. At FIU, things went bad in a hurry in his final season, but a lot of that stemmed from the dysfunctional administration. Some may knock that Cristobal doesn’t have coordinator experience on his resume. Of course, neither did Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer or Art Briles, and things have worked out fine with those guys.

My two cents: UM desperately needs someone with deep South Florida ties and who understands UM. Cristobal does. Maybe he could even bring a Mel Tucker along with him as his DC. His time working under Saban, and learning that organizational structure is a plus.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...tes-alabama-cristobal-colts-chudzinski-102515
 

Lightningwar

Administrator
What is the dislike of Cristobal about? Seems to me a guy like that could be a great fit for Miami. A Saban disciple with access to South Florida talent. I for one would hate it. But I cant understand why Miami fans hate it.
 

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
What is the dislike of Cristobal about? Seems to me a guy like that could be a great fit for Miami. A Saban disciple with access to South Florida talent. I for one would hate it. But I cant understand why Miami fans hate it.

I'm in the same boat you are. I've been backing Cristobal for a few years now.

I suppose I'm biased because he was on the staff (TEs) when I was there, but his players loved him, he understands the program as well as anyone, he's a top top top recruiter (which is why Saban hired him), and he turned around one of the most god awful programs in the country.

I do not understand the hate and, as I said, none of the haters seem willing to actually articulate the problem.
 

MiamiU26

Active Member
Herman and Fuente are who I want, keep Beard and Ice Harris and get rid of everyone else. Maybe keep Coley as QB coach and in charge of recruiting.
 

Brick

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I do not understand the hate and, as I said, none of the haters seem willing to actually articulate the problem.
Went 20-26 in the Sun Belt. Went 1-17 against BCS teams. Only BCS win was against 7-6 Louisville, who also lost to 7-6 Marshall at home OOC that year. C-USA "power" UCF was 5-7 the year FIU beat them. Did nothing to suggest he was even an above average coach. He should have had more success being the tEh MAsTEr RIvALzz in (a) the shittiest conference in FBS, and (b) being the only Florida school in said conference. He didn't do much.
 

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
What was FIU's record before Cristobal got there? How many BCS wins did it have? What's FIU's record since he left?

I'll save you the trouble: Mario Cristobal was the HC for every winning season in FIU history.

FIU was far and away the worst program in the country when he took that job and he went to two bowl games with it. The idea that he should have won 10 games a year or whatever you're suggesting is ridiculous.

Again: the head coaching job at Miami is 95% recruiting and hiring the right coordinators. Cristobal proved he could recruit even at the crappiest program in America. As for coordinators, that's always a crapshoot.

If "couldn't turn FIU from the worst team in the country into a powerhouse in 6 years" is the only knock on him, then I hope we hire him today.
 

GuyIncognito

pressure cooker full of skittles
I mean basically that boils down to criticizing Cristobal for taking the FIU job at all, given the state of the program and the administration.

He could have just turned that job down and then he'd be the hotshot assistant all the armchair geniuses are touting for every job that opens.
 

atlbraves

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@Brick @GuyIncognito

To an uninformed observer, it seems like he plateaued at FIU. He was touted as a coach "on the rise" but never took FIU to the heights they hoped for. Even though his firing was questionable, his last season was a clear step back. When it was all said and done, his best season was 8 wins and culminated with a loss in the Beef O'Brady Bowl.

Again, I'm totally uninformed on what the limitations or realistic expectations were for FIU during his tenure. I'll defer to Mak on this, but that's my explanation of the tepid response to Cristobal.
 

kella

Low IQ fat ass with depression and anxiety
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I think FIU achieved the heights it could hope for which is a reaction from casual fans other than "who the fuck is FIU"
 
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