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WBL Season Wars -- Peder Strikes Back
- Thread starter Mr. Radpants
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"Given the option value and the buyout amount, the player will estimate the likelihood that the team will actually exercise the option. So if you offer a deal that's 1 year/5M with a 10M option, he will try to figure out how often that option will come into play. If he thinks it's a 50/50 whether it's accepted, then he will essentially value the deal as a "1.5 year"/10M contract offer.
Vesting options work in a similar way - the player estimates the chance that the vesting option will vest. So if you set a vesting option for 800 PAs, he's going to ignore it completely, but 400 PAs he'll try to figure out the odds that he'll hit the 400 PAs to trigger it.
Now I don't want to give away all our secrets,but pre-FA guys have also been tweaked. I've gotten rid of my traditional "Give them their arbitration estimate for 3-4 years, and now I have a young guy who will be a superstar for a ridiculously cheap deal" (on a side note, in my game I signed a guy who's now won multiple MVP awards and is a consistent .300 hitter with 30+ HRs to a 10 year deal worth 2.5M per year. He won't accept a deal like that in 16). Arb or pre-arb guys will essentially ballpark their value, so if you want to sign a guy to a 3 year deal, he'll try to figure out roughly speaking what he'd get in arbitration over that time, and won't sign a deal for much less than that."
Vesting options work in a similar way - the player estimates the chance that the vesting option will vest. So if you set a vesting option for 800 PAs, he's going to ignore it completely, but 400 PAs he'll try to figure out the odds that he'll hit the 400 PAs to trigger it.
Now I don't want to give away all our secrets,but pre-FA guys have also been tweaked. I've gotten rid of my traditional "Give them their arbitration estimate for 3-4 years, and now I have a young guy who will be a superstar for a ridiculously cheap deal" (on a side note, in my game I signed a guy who's now won multiple MVP awards and is a consistent .300 hitter with 30+ HRs to a 10 year deal worth 2.5M per year. He won't accept a deal like that in 16). Arb or pre-arb guys will essentially ballpark their value, so if you want to sign a guy to a 3 year deal, he'll try to figure out roughly speaking what he'd get in arbitration over that time, and won't sign a deal for much less than that."
He was asking for 1 year at $8M for me.... Must have REALLY wanted to play in the sphere. I didn't want Wolfman to get him, so I offered 30M and 25M since I'm done with IFA for the next two seasons, then he's down to a team friendly $14M option when I'm back in IFA (or I cut him if he sucks).
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
Apparently he reely didn't want to play in Buffalo anymore.
I guess he forgot he had VERY HIGH loyalty.
Damn, I got you shook that bad? Just the mere mention I MIGHT get involved got this man throwing cash out the window. Have you seen my rotation? Why would I spend that much money on a #4 or #5?
He'll be an ACE in the sphere. Besides, I have the luxury money.
VERY HIGH loyalty cuts both ways, you didn't extend him so he was pissed at you.
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
I tried three times.
He bailed on his PO. He denied his offer before FA. And he denied my FA offer.
And it isnt like I massively undercut him. The pre-FA offer was better than my FA offer, and my FA offer wasnt bad.
He sees where ur team is headed then. He has that good taste to see the riggers are headed towards DOMINANCE with their well controlled budget and talented youth system.
He's tired of being in a club house that smells like Werther's Originals and Bengay all the time
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
Well now he's gonna be in a club house that smells like riggers
I actually think he turned down Lloyd's offer because of the fuckshit vesting option. He know Lloyd was going to Ol Yeller him.
Cocaine and Texas Mickeys of Crown?
I saw
once again, another case of the black man doing all the hard work work and the white man coming in to get the accolades
see Tony Dungy/Jon Gruden
ZackMills
Have mercy
Maybe if he didn't start Felipe Brito in CF all season, he'd won some games.
He was tanking like JD does.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Can he remember all their names though?
ZackMills
Have mercy
I'd say the following played a role last year that @Reel drafted/acquired:
Desi (CF), Fred (1B), Dave (SP), Zayd (SP), Garcia (SP), Zhong (RP). All were top 5 first rounders except Zayd (high 2nd round) and Zong (high 4th round).
Rob Stares he didn't acquired, but kept around. Doyle Britton (2nd round) was a draftee that was pretty shitty last year, but I still have hope for turning it around. Two or three other Reel guys got a cup of coffee on the CHAMPIONSHIP team.
Desi (CF), Fred (1B), Dave (SP), Zayd (SP), Garcia (SP), Zhong (RP). All were top 5 first rounders except Zayd (high 2nd round) and Zong (high 4th round).
Rob Stares he didn't acquired, but kept around. Doyle Britton (2nd round) was a draftee that was pretty shitty last year, but I still have hope for turning it around. Two or three other Reel guys got a cup of coffee on the CHAMPIONSHIP team.
That's pretty solid. Better than those shitheads NML gave me. I only got like 3 left.