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Trojan Soap Opera: The Helton Years
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Lightningwar
Administrator
What is his buyout? I cant believe somebody isnt looking into luring Chip Kelly.
Lightningwar
Administrator
USC has set the standard when it comes to unprecedented things with their coaching hiring and firing. May as well set the next bar and get a guy with a proven track record. I am still baffled at this hire. Unless they didnt want to wade into the battle due to so many positions opening up?
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
Are we sure it's a good idea to bring Todd McNair back? He was the alleged fall guy for the Reggie Bush scandal, IIRC. The NCAA, being the evil organization it is, might out-evil itself again.
Very happy to have him back. Our special teams were actually good when he was here.
We'll see. Admittedly, the person I'm hearing this from is a good friend of Todd's, so he's got a biased opinion. But per him, the NCAA didn't have shit on McNair....or really anybody; they were just making a point after a lengthy investigation, and needed to pin something on someone.
That being said, we either need to move on entirely from the Carroll era, or get the whole damn band back together. Because the last 5 to 6 years have basically been musical chairs with a handful of Carroll assistants mixed with other guys, and it obviously hasn't worked.
@Reel . Just got hired. Weight room is nothing but kettlebells....and shoe booties. Gotta keep the mats clean.
Young up-and-comer with a little swagger. Seems like a good fit for SC. We should give that guy a shot.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
Uhhhh... USC hires Lynn Swann as its AD? http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...athletic-director-southern-california-trojans
Take it from a program that constantly hired ADs without athletic department experience - it usually doesn't work out. What the hell is going on at USC?
Take it from a program that constantly hired ADs without athletic department experience - it usually doesn't work out. What the hell is going on at USC?
guardman23
Well-Known Member
Early prediction for the Bama game 
So, yeah........
Lynn Swann is a beloved Trojan, a solid ambassador for the school, and seems like a good dude. But, I could've said a similar sentence (and probably did) 5 1/2 years ago when Haden was hired. Except Haden seemingly had more qualifications for this type of job, given his professional background. I'm not sure what specific know-how Swann brings. And I'm a little curious about JK McKay, who's been the assistant AD for years. Did he not want the job? Was he simply passed over?
To be fair to Haden, SC has won the 2nd most national titles during his tenure of any school (I believe only "Go Gata" has more). So as much criticism as he gets, the athletic department has performed really well under his stewardship. BUT, football hasn't, and that's the one that writes the checks, puts butts in seats, and really determines how successful the A.D. is perceived to be.
Hopefully Helton and Enfield prove to be successful and stick around awhile, and we can establish a little sorely missing consistency in the two most high profile sports. And that'd make Swann's transition easier, being able to learn on the job without having to make a big hire under the spotlight.
Lynn Swann is a beloved Trojan, a solid ambassador for the school, and seems like a good dude. But, I could've said a similar sentence (and probably did) 5 1/2 years ago when Haden was hired. Except Haden seemingly had more qualifications for this type of job, given his professional background. I'm not sure what specific know-how Swann brings. And I'm a little curious about JK McKay, who's been the assistant AD for years. Did he not want the job? Was he simply passed over?
To be fair to Haden, SC has won the 2nd most national titles during his tenure of any school (I believe only "Go Gata" has more). So as much criticism as he gets, the athletic department has performed really well under his stewardship. BUT, football hasn't, and that's the one that writes the checks, puts butts in seats, and really determines how successful the A.D. is perceived to be.
Hopefully Helton and Enfield prove to be successful and stick around awhile, and we can establish a little sorely missing consistency in the two most high profile sports. And that'd make Swann's transition easier, being able to learn on the job without having to make a big hire under the spotlight.
Which will play with recruits. Let's call a spade a spade....most foobaw recruits are A) black and B) have dreams of playing in the NFL. SC will milk Swann being 'relate-able' and a Super Bowl champ.
bruin
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BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
You sayin' all black folk are alike? Smdh.
In seriousness, Swann's (public) persona seems to be one of smiles and friendliness. Heck, the man ran for governor, IIRC.
Garrett was always kinda known to be a grouchy asshole.
But yeah - Helton. I think @guardman23 is wrong. It won't be 40 pounds of rape. It'll be 100.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
The man ran for governor and got destroyed in the PA primary. He didn't do well the Pennsyltucky part of the state or Philly or Scranton or Pittsburgh.
Lightningwar
Administrator
Do recruits even know or care who is the AD?
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
Of course. He's the one who signs their paychecks.
Wuf
Desensitized and Willing
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
He got dem rings doe.
guardman23
Well-Known Member
Wish it was in California the hate on kiffin would be awesome
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
guardman23
Well-Known Member
OK y'all might have a chance if we don't start Jalen Hurst Bateman sucks
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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@Derek Dooley
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
Eh - it's probably a less drastic change than when Carroll went back to the "old" jerseys with the shoulder stripes and TV numbers on the sleeves and also the gray facemasks.
As long as we don't sell out and wear fukcig black jerseys or alternate color bullshit, I'm happy. Go duck urselfs, Whoregon!
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
Ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch.
So, while the Trojans are getting their assholes sewn back up, I'm wondering what the rest of the season has in store. The team, outside of the first quarter, did not look good at all. I think the while team - players as well as coaches, looked as lost and befuddled as a kitten stuck in a garbage disposal, with similarly predictable results.
Next up is Utah State in the friendly confines of the Coliseum, which should be a win, but as has been pointed out, Utah State isn't the pushover they seem to be, and have been a solid, if not-quite-so-talented team. USC should out-talent them, but I don't think the game will be as easy for the Trojans as it should be.
After that are road trips to Stanford and then Utah. I don't think USC wins both, and could quite easily lose both. The only game I see that looks like a surefire win in the early part of the season is Colorado, and even they aren't the weaklings they once were.
Fuckin' A - Hackett is backett.
So, while the Trojans are getting their assholes sewn back up, I'm wondering what the rest of the season has in store. The team, outside of the first quarter, did not look good at all. I think the while team - players as well as coaches, looked as lost and befuddled as a kitten stuck in a garbage disposal, with similarly predictable results.
Next up is Utah State in the friendly confines of the Coliseum, which should be a win, but as has been pointed out, Utah State isn't the pushover they seem to be, and have been a solid, if not-quite-so-talented team. USC should out-talent them, but I don't think the game will be as easy for the Trojans as it should be.
After that are road trips to Stanford and then Utah. I don't think USC wins both, and could quite easily lose both. The only game I see that looks like a surefire win in the early part of the season is Colorado, and even they aren't the weaklings they once were.
Fuckin' A - Hackett is backett.
I only watched through the early 3rd Q before I jumped on a plane.
It was better, obviously. But with respect to Utah State, they're not high enough caliber for me to now say, "ok great, Helton and company fixed the problems from the Bama game."
We'll see what happens in the next two: @Stanford and @Utah.
2 for 2 so far for having players ejected.
Have we EVER been a disciplined team with regard to not committing stupid penalties?
It was better, obviously. But with respect to Utah State, they're not high enough caliber for me to now say, "ok great, Helton and company fixed the problems from the Bama game."
We'll see what happens in the next two: @Stanford and @Utah.
2 for 2 so far for having players ejected.
Have we EVER been a disciplined team with regard to not committing stupid penalties?
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
Let's go for 12 of 12 having players ejected. Perhaps if we start acting like 80s Miami, we will start playing like 80s Miami.
Anyway, yeah, it was better. But yes, it was also Utah State. Show me convincing wins over Stanford and Utah and I'll relax.
One thing I noticed that troubles me is that Max Browne is the reincarnation of Rob Johnson. Holding the ball too long, jittery feet, but somehow getting the lucky on some throws. Come crunch time, I expect he'll fuck up just like Johnson did.
Then there's that weird semi-dual QB rotation where Darnold gets in for some playing time - and I don't mean a whole series l, but just a play or two, and then Browne is back in. Not sure what that's all about.
Defense played really quite well. In honesty, they played well against Bama, too, but when your offense is going 3 and out all game long, eventually you get buried in an avalanche of yards and TDs, regardless of how well you played initially.
The next two weeks will be a clearer barometer of the direction of the team. Still, getting a convincing 45-7 win over anybody is a good confidence boost.
Anyway, yeah, it was better. But yes, it was also Utah State. Show me convincing wins over Stanford and Utah and I'll relax.
One thing I noticed that troubles me is that Max Browne is the reincarnation of Rob Johnson. Holding the ball too long, jittery feet, but somehow getting the lucky on some throws. Come crunch time, I expect he'll fuck up just like Johnson did.
Then there's that weird semi-dual QB rotation where Darnold gets in for some playing time - and I don't mean a whole series l, but just a play or two, and then Browne is back in. Not sure what that's all about.
Defense played really quite well. In honesty, they played well against Bama, too, but when your offense is going 3 and out all game long, eventually you get buried in an avalanche of yards and TDs, regardless of how well you played initially.
The next two weeks will be a clearer barometer of the direction of the team. Still, getting a convincing 45-7 win over anybody is a good confidence boost.
