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Discussion in 'NCAA Football Discussion' started by JSU Zack, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. Akecheta

    Akecheta Well-Known Member

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    We've talked for ages about 5 QBA and how crazy it is, I have started having success by learning a few screen variations. I hate throwing screens but it works if you can get the first one off then a second then move to the outs or slants.
     
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  2. LEGEND

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    That's my problem as well! I hate throwing screens And feel I shouldn't have to be forced to throw them! I shouldn't have to complete a couple screens b4 I can complete a slant or out!

    That's the most idiotic logic I've ever heard! If the qb's just missed throws a little high or wide... That would not be an issue. But when you throw a 5yd slant or dig and it goes high wide and off target by a city block that just unrealistic!

    To top it off... It usually takes some God offal flight path to a defender. It makes no logical sense. Add to that the frustration of actually making good defensive plays only to watch your guys drop pick 6's... And you get no fun or momentum changing plays!

    But somehow... your guy perfectly breaks on a pass thrown into coverage and drops it while your pass goes completely against where you were throwing to an uncovered guy for a pick... Smfh!

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  3. LEGEND

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    With that being said... I don't think 5 Qba is the only issue! I was in another OD with 5 Qba and it played differently. It's the sliders in powerhouse that's causing the problem.

    There needs to be some other adjustments made. In that other OD you missed throws but nothing like how you miss in powerhouse!

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  4. NavyHog

    NavyHog Well-Known Member Utopia Moderator NCAA Moderator

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    I have found that you can't hot route with QB 5 early in the game. I can't prove it, but it seems like you have much less of a chance of an errant throw if you run the play without any adjustments. I don't hot route until I feel like my QB has "settled out".
     
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  5. LEGEND

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    That explains a lot! Much of my passing game is hot routes. The first pass I attempted was a hot route and It was wayyyyyyyyy off target!

    This adds to my disdain for 5 Qba! Unless you're throwing a screen or hitch you pretty much screwed early! So those that incorporate those plays into their scheme will always have a advantage in the passing game.

    That's just plain stupid!

    My QB couldn't throw much of anything until the 4th Qtr. By then his errant passes had already sealed the deal. I don't understand why screens are the magic wand... Why is it so difficult to throw a slant or 5 yd dig?

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  6. JSU Zack

    JSU Zack How do I IT?

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    I thnk you answered your question.
     
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  7. LEGEND

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    I guess I felt dedicated to playing with those guys! Been playing with @NavyHog and @Flann since the old Utopia BSCFL. Really enjoyed playing with those guys. But I have enough dynasties I'm a part of already. I guess it's time to move on!

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  8. Flanntastic

    Flanntastic Well-Known Member NCAA Moderator

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    i don't try any pass over 5 yds until i have hit 5 straight passes, the only pass over 5yds i will attempt is a curl. once you complete 5 passes, your ready to roll.
     
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  9. LEGEND

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    My first couple of passes were simple hot routes... A out and a dig. The out was smart routed to 10 yds but the dig was about 5yds. The out sailed wide & high out of bounds and the dig sailed high and wide directly to your FS. It makes no sense the path both of those passes took. I could understand being high or wide... But both were drastically altered by 5 Qba.

    And of course there's the fact I was on the road. The fact that the dig was a pick and on the road.... only leads to EA logic kicking in. We all know EA has flawed logic... So do the math! My Qb was erratic until around 2mins left in the 3rd Qtr.

    What I think is more insane is... That once you completed your 3-5 passes. Your Qb was able to make any throw! I say 3-5 because I was actually counting your passes early in the game. You actually completed your first pass... Your 2nd was incomplete and you completed your next two.

    From That point on... the only passes you didn't complete were passes you attempted into extremely tight coverage and the pick six I dropped. You might have had 1 or 2 more... but only your 2nd pass was a 5 Qba WTF lame duck!

    I have a little scheme I put together for 5 Qba... We'll see how that goes. I know I've had games where I completed all of my 6-8 attempts only to have 5 Qba kick in on the next 3-4.

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  10. Flanntastic

    Flanntastic Well-Known Member NCAA Moderator

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    The other thing is, that was a rivalry game, I have noticed that in rivalry games the cpu can really f with one team

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  11. LEGEND

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    I didn't know they were rivals.

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  12. Flanntastic

    Flanntastic Well-Known Member NCAA Moderator

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    Yup, we hate them

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  13. LEGEND

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    How does that work? There are other states/schools closer. Just curious. I guess it's like us and Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame.

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  14. Flanntastic

    Flanntastic Well-Known Member NCAA Moderator

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    Basketball rivalry mainly, but cincy rivals are louisville, miami, and Xavier

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  15. bruin228

    bruin228 Madden Mobile Addict NCAA Moderator

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    Pitt?
     
  16. Flanntastic

    Flanntastic Well-Known Member NCAA Moderator

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    Nah

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  18. JSU Zack

    JSU Zack How do I IT?

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    That's been my experience as well, but the logic seems unrealistic to me. Yeah, it's a game, but does Paul Johnson say "only short routes the first half". Nah. He goes for the home run.
     
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  19. guardman23

    guardman23 Well-Known Member

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    Power seems to actually work if you run it with the Qb it is a good counter for those that like to take the Qb all the time on the zone read
     
  20. JSU Zack

    JSU Zack How do I IT?

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    If you have the right QB, power & wrap are designed to trap the read player on the zone read.
     
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