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Saints taking out payday loans to sign players b/c Brees got all the money
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i see that happening via trade. P.Thomas is the odd man out. Second straight postseason he's missed
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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Pierre will retire a Saint. He is the best pass protector on the team, as well as the best guy for screens. Both of which are crucial in preserving Drew's long term health.
Chase
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JSU Zack
How do I IT?
Let Graham go and get two good receivers to strengthen the receiving corps as a whole. I may be the only one, but none of our receivers outside Graham are spectacular. Brees and Payton just find ways to get them open.
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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Gotta let Graham walk, but we won't
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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it was good while it lasted
but i see them bringing him back at the expense of other parts of the team. He is a fan favorite and one of Drew's favorite targets. My only concern is now teams have more than enough film on him to basically eliminate him or limiting his impact. Seattle twice and the New England. Now the key is that the teams get a big/strong corner e.g. Talib, anyone from Seattle, to defend him and be physical with him. He (jimmy) doesnt appear to adapt to physical contact that well. So the saints need to decide if he is worth him shying away in big games where defenses will probably do that to him or let him walk
but i see them bringing him back at the expense of other parts of the team. He is a fan favorite and one of Drew's favorite targets. My only concern is now teams have more than enough film on him to basically eliminate him or limiting his impact. Seattle twice and the New England. Now the key is that the teams get a big/strong corner e.g. Talib, anyone from Seattle, to defend him and be physical with him. He (jimmy) doesnt appear to adapt to physical contact that well. So the saints need to decide if he is worth him shying away in big games where defenses will probably do that to him or let him walk
usnfish
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Pelicans, ugh. Monty Williams is the biggest issue. He is stuck in the mud of the NBA he played in, refusing to coach in the NBA he's coaching in. Anthony Davis needs to be the center on this team next year. Have some grinder who you bring in for stretches when the Pels play Indiana or Houston (a total of 6 games). The rest of it, Davis at center. If he can guard Z-Bo and David West on the block why can't he guard Cousins or Gasol or whomever? What is the actual difference in physical beating he's taking?
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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I'm okay with Sharper but not that dirty little faggot
Clintmartian
Stringer Bell
Vilma no longer with the Saints...now for them to draft Michael Sam.
Clintmartian
Stringer Bell
I think it would make him drop a little bit to be honest.
I mean it's not like he isn't a talented player...he was defensive player of the year in the (I hate saying this) best conference in college football.
usnfish
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AD had a pretty good weekend I think. It's hard as a big man to really matter in the ASG format but I think AD (along with Griffin) are going to do very well. Problem is that once Chris Paul gets old the West isn't going to have that ideal distributor unless Spain starts voting HAM for Rubio (my Lord it would be beautiful).
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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Have you been to Spain lately?
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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hellatight
jdlikewhoa
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fried rice
Who wants to sex Mutombo?
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GR8 2 B FL G8R
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re: Saints
Trade Graham, bring in some quality FAs, Superbowl
Trade Graham, bring in some quality FAs, Superbowl
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GR8 2 B FL G8R
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everythang
Ok so here is how I understand the options
Let him walk as a free agent, you can't trade him now since he isn't under contract.
Franchise tag him at either WR (11.5m) or TE (6.7m) if the Saints try and tag him as a TE, he gonna be pissed and might end up in the court of the NFL/NFLPA. Once he is tagged he either plays the season at those tags (which the Saints can't afford) or they have until training camp basically to work out a longterm (cap friendly deal).
Once tagged he can be traded only if he reaches an extension with the new team. (I think this is what changed in the new CBA), the Saints would be on the hook (cap hit) for his signing bonus. Just like when any player is traded, the signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract comes due when traded. The Gronk contract had a 8 million dollar signing bonus, so that would be the Saints cap hit this year if tagged and traded.
Now a team trading for him, might be willing to give up more because their cap hit wouldn't be a much. But they also know he might be a FA next year and then his value might be down a little because of the big game performances this season, same reason you guys are willing to move on.
I cannot see a team paying Graham 12 million per year plus giving up 2 - 1st round picks, when there is a good chance he will be a FA next year.
There are 3 different types of tags, Exclusive (cannot sign with another team), non-exclusive (can sign with another team, original team gets 2 first round picks back) and transition (allows the original team to match the offer)
Very interesting situation
Gronk is 6 years 54 million
Let him walk as a free agent, you can't trade him now since he isn't under contract.
Franchise tag him at either WR (11.5m) or TE (6.7m) if the Saints try and tag him as a TE, he gonna be pissed and might end up in the court of the NFL/NFLPA. Once he is tagged he either plays the season at those tags (which the Saints can't afford) or they have until training camp basically to work out a longterm (cap friendly deal).
Once tagged he can be traded only if he reaches an extension with the new team. (I think this is what changed in the new CBA), the Saints would be on the hook (cap hit) for his signing bonus. Just like when any player is traded, the signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract comes due when traded. The Gronk contract had a 8 million dollar signing bonus, so that would be the Saints cap hit this year if tagged and traded.
Now a team trading for him, might be willing to give up more because their cap hit wouldn't be a much. But they also know he might be a FA next year and then his value might be down a little because of the big game performances this season, same reason you guys are willing to move on.
I cannot see a team paying Graham 12 million per year plus giving up 2 - 1st round picks, when there is a good chance he will be a FA next year.
There are 3 different types of tags, Exclusive (cannot sign with another team), non-exclusive (can sign with another team, original team gets 2 first round picks back) and transition (allows the original team to match the offer)
Very interesting situation
Gronk is 6 years 54 million
GR8 2 B FL G8R
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Fuck what if we link him to Hernandez
I think your best options are let him walk, (Drew will make a decent TE look great). Or sign him to a long term deal and push as much money out as they can. Maybe it is worth being in cap hell for a year or two once Drew leaves to try and win now.
Getting involved with the tag could paint this in a corner if can't work out a deal (long term or trade). They can remove the tag later on. The deadline to tag players is Monday.
Getting involved with the tag could paint this in a corner if can't work out a deal (long term or trade). They can remove the tag later on. The deadline to tag players is Monday.