Remind me of all this later. As in tomorrow when not hammered
No rush, still have bowl and offseason left before any rule changes begin anyway. Drink away.
Remind me of all this later. As in tomorrow when not hammered
Yeah, the original rule was for incomplete passes and or plays resulting in negative yardage. I played the way I did against @TXHusker05 cuz I thought he had broken that rule on his first drive against me.
No worriesI don't remember any time where we had a negative play aspect to the no huddle rule in Utopia ODs, only clock stoppages inside of two minutes and incomplete passes.
From what I can tell, @Walter323 copy and pasted my original Powerhouse rules and made a few tweaks when he re-posted them, but the current no huddle rule is exactly the same as my original rule. That original no huddle rule was copied from @NavyHog's BSCFL and CUSA rules when I started up Powerhouse. The wording is different but the rule itself is the same. As far as I can remember that's been the only no huddle rule we've had in any Utopia ODs.
Regardless, I think the clock stoppage part of the rule should be removed as well with only incomplete passes forcing a huddle. I had multiple games this season where people seemed to think I was no huddling illegally when I wasn't at any point.
Why was the new rule regarding not allowing defensive lineman to be manually controlled while dropping back into pass coverage enacted? I usually play a 4-3 with a defensive lineman so this is concerning regarding zone blitzes. Users call slide protection to the defensive lineman I am controlling so I have countered by running a zone blitz where the defensive lineman drops into pass coverage that I user control. I do this because I can blitz away from the protection that's centered on me. We are all legit players on this board and you guys know I am so I was just scratching my head to why this rule is put into play.
I'm talking like a standard zone blitz with no hot routes at all. Say the DE is assigned to the flat on the blitz and I would user control him to his assignment. I do this because the opposing user would slide protect to the DE I am usering so I drop back to take the flat while the blitz comes from the other side.I think there's a clause in the rule that you must hot route the DL before taking control. I'd say it's fair game as long as you're rushing two.
I've always had heartburn with manual DL drops from all the lobby ball game I've played.
I would be willing to allow it if the manual DL didn't drop any further than a MAX of 8 yds from the LOS. I don't want to see some DL chasing WR down the field. It also shouldn't be a staple of ones pass coverage. I don't see a lot of this in the college FB I watch.
I usually just look to scare the opponent from throwing the short routes like slants and drags. Plus none of us really play lobby ball here any way so why do it just pop up now?
http://www.nutopiasports.com/forum/index.php?threads/bscfl-rules.200/
In the BSCFL rules(I know they aren't the same league) under rule 11 it says:
11) All shifts are allowed when dealing with the defense. You can crash the line, bump in run, shift the LB's left or right. You can also hot route your defense whenever you want as well. You are not allowed to move any DL-man, either laterally or vertically, manually before the snap. After the snap feel free to move him back into coverage.
Just conflicts with it being long-standing
Ok, I need a clarification.
Is the scramble to the HB Wheel route ok?
He did that twice during my game too, I thought it was cheesy.
I agree that there is a fine line between what is SIM and UNSIM. It is subjective and everyone has a different interpretation. While not specifically spelled out in the rules – it is frowned upon if one continually rolls one way or another to pass or run. It’s going to happen, I do it from time to time if everyone is covered (or maybe I’m not seeing the field well), but it shouldn’t be hike, sprint right or left and then throw or run. In real football the zone is going to adjust to the QB closing down half the field of play, in “our version” the zone doesn’t change no matter what.
In summary: It’s okay from time to time, it’s always okay to run if everyone is covered. It’s not okay to drop back to pass with the intention of running. Also I appreciate you guys coming on here and discussing the matter with a degree of civility and respect.. It's a game, and while we do play to win, it should be for fun and not "super serious".
I'm not defending him just posting from the thread lol
Playing Devils Advocate - there are designed sprint outs in "real football" and in this game. I think its okay 2-3 times a game. Its one of those gray areas. It shouldn't be a core part if ones offense.
I'm in chat with him... He said he called engage 8@TNBassMan10 Don't nano blitz again. Your only warning.
I'm in chat with him... He said he called engage 8
Playing Devils Advocate - there are designed sprint outs in "real football" and in this game. I think its okay 2-3 times a game. Its one of those gray areas. It shouldn't be a core part if ones offense.
Yeah, but you can also edge pressure or contain to combat that in real life. That doesn't work in the game.
No lie after you had run the ball 8 straight plays I said in party chat, "I'm about to do something I never do. Engage 8."I'm in chat with him... He said he called engage 8
Playing Devils Advocate - there are designed sprint outs in "real football" and in this game. I think its okay 2-3 times a game. Its one of those gray areas. It shouldn't be a core part if ones offense.
Yeah, but you can also edge pressure or contain to combat that in real life. That doesn't work in the game.
I did set up to pass. No way on QBA on 5 w my QB he can even throw that pass deep if he's on the run.The thread @Akecheta linked above has my thoughts on the subject but I'll summarize them here.
I think any scramble in the tackle box is fair game. If someone is dropping 8 into coverage and there is a hole, step up and run as much as you want. If you're scrambling/sprinting out beyond the tackle box, you need to commit to either running or passing.
The most infuriating thing someone can do is sprint straight to the boundary, act as if they are going to run and then throw it when you take control of a defender to step up and make a tackle. That's trash. It is impossible to defend in game, contain is not effective and CPU defenders just don't "think" and adjust accordingly as the pocket shifts and the quarterback leaves the zone.
I personally run some designed sprintouts in my offense off of Z Spot and Sprintout Smash, both have the red designed QB rollout animations, but the ball is typically out before I even get beyond the tackle.
Long story short, if you sprint out of the tackle box, either set up to pass and throw to a receiver (or throw it away) or just keep running the ball.
I did set up to pass. No way on QBA on 5 w my QB he can even throw that pass deep if he's on the run.
I ran right, stopped, took a step or two (not running) and chucked it deep.
GG JSU. Had fun.
You did stop. It was the only time you ran it, so no worries.
This is NOT what I did but IMO this is what football, especially college, is today.
Tennessee Auburn Oregon (even the Titans) Ark State Baylor Ohio State etc etc etc all do this from time to time.
Once again, this is not what I did as I ran straight right, still 5 yards or so behind the line, took a step or two (not running--just setting my feet) and threw it.
Good game man. Good luck the rest of the way.
This is NOT what I did but IMO this is what football, especially college, is today.
Tennessee Auburn Oregon (even the Titans) Ark State Baylor Ohio State etc etc etc all do this from time to time.
Once again, this is not what I did as I ran straight right, still 5 yards or so behind the line, took a step or two (not running--just setting my feet) and threw it.
LMAO.... If Bama wants to stop mobile QBs don't exclusively sign 350 lb DL that cant run (granted they've started that shift)Ya run around like an asshole was Clemson an Auburn's main offense only thing that gives bama trouble
Ya run around like an asshole was Clemson an Auburn's main offense only thing that gives bama trouble
Lol #TitanUpThe run around like an asshole offensecan make any team dangerous.
I blame Vince Young, or at least the fat fuck that ate Vince Young a few years ago.
I have said this for two seasons, tackling needs increased. I hit the cpu qb in the backfield and he breaks tacklesI suggest we tweak sliders to turn down run blocking. @Walter323 was able to run at will against 9 man boxes. Husker was able to do the same.
I think a lot of the defensive fronts we're using is due to the run game being OP for the shotgun.
I have said this for two seasons, tackling needs increased. I hit the cpu qb in the backfield and he breaks tackles
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk 2