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Discussion in 'College Football Discussion' started by bruin228, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. bruin228

    bruin228 Madden Mobile Addict NCAA Moderator

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    Yeah, but I don't think he is a good example
     
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    Lol @Wooly - you sound like another poster on another board I frequent who laments the state of football in America, especially in the West, and especially as it pertains to the waning fortunes of USC football.

    Basically he laments the changing demographics (Asians and Latinos make lousy footbaw players) of the student body, the state, and the West in general.

    I counter that finding 85-ish freakishly athletic kids to play footbaw for you is no harder now than it was 20, 30, 50 years ago. Heck, identifying them is easier today because of the plethora of camps, skills seminars, private coaches and the like.

    The overall number of kids participating in football might be lower as a percentage of the population, but I think the kids who do participate in it are better trained and more highly skilled on the average than their dads and granddads.
     
  4. Brick

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    OH BOY

    the whole article is: cristobal is CROOTIN big, strong players.

    BRUTE FORCE
     
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    It is happening, but I not lamenting it. I would discourage my kids from playing football, hell even from playing sports. It wasted a lot of time for me growing up.

    Football has a problem going forward because the youth game is shrinking. I agree the training is better, and finding athletes is easier, but that won't offset the trend down in interest and participation.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/...-are-playing-football-A-study-in-13319241.php

    I don't know how much that affects teams in the west right now, but my guess is that it is. If you have to go further away from home to recruit, it's just harder. Some kids just won't go far from home no matter what.

    CA has seen about a 1percent annual decline in HS football players for the past 10 yrs. At the same time, there growth rate is about 1percent per year. That says kids have been turning away from football, and it's gone on long enough to affect recruiting, I would think.

    While the rest of the country is seeing declining numbers is youth and HS football, it's actually going up in the south. That means recruiting is getting even more skewed to the south. We are 10 years into this. That might contribute to the Pac 10 being down. USC can go get the kids from the south, but what about the mediocre programs? It's been getting harder and harder for them.

    At the national level, youth flag football now has more kids than tackle football.
     
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    He has a point about the football demographics too. Asians and Latinos are just smaller on average. No amount of training is going to make them big enough to play D1 football. CA demographic changes don't bode well for college football in the West. Not a bad thing per se, just reality.
     
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    Well yeah. This guy laments the changing demographics for reasons besides football, too - so you can imagine why I dislike him. In the case of Asians, not only are they smaller, but they also tend not to participate in sports, period. Most Asian parents I know look at sports as diversion and recreation, not as something to put serious time and effort into, except as it pertains to helping their child earn a college scholarship. So that's why most of the ones who do play sports, tend to play individual sports like golf or tennis or swimming where size and athleticism is far less important than in team sports like basketball and football.

    But this guy's particular beef, as I eventually sussed out, is that his kids did not get into USC, despite him being an alum and a donor, and basically he blames it on USC (like many other California schools) favoring admissions of foreign (mostly Mainland Chinese, Injuns, and Koreans) students over California resident kids.

    He extrapolates the changing face of USC's student body as meaning there's less interest in USC football, meaning less donations, meaning less money to compete with the SEC big boys, which means a Western football program will never again come close to winning a title.
     
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    of course CLOWNZANO thinks this is the most clever thing

     
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