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Pac-12 Thread

bruin

bruin

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doh said:
And they got their asses completely kicked last year by Stanford/Oregon… maybe they'll prove us wrong but I have no idea how they're being talked up as a NC contender.
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Ehhh, UCLA had three shots with the ball to tie it up at the farm in the 4th and couldn't do anything.

In Eugene it was a one score game late in the 3rd before Hundley and the offense self destructed.

Back to back road trips to Palo Alto and Eugene. Would love to see how other teams would handle that as well.

Far away from getting their asses kicked.
 
bruin

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OL looked lost and needs Brendal back badly. Simon Goines who has been a two year started at tackle should be back for Texas. 2 starters right there.

Not going to cut my wrists just yet. It's week 1. Flazzu almost beat Auburn in Jordan Hare last year in week 1 too.
 
bruin228

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Brick

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Brett Hundley is 9-10......for 33 yards. Against Memphis.

THIS. IS. NOEL. MAZZONE. OFFENSE.
 
kella

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Liked them better when they were Memphis State
 
Mame YO

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Not trying to be an irrational fan, but I wish the ducks weren't so willing to abandon the run game under frost/Helfrich. Yeah, robo QB. But also, teams willing to pass rush repeatedly are going to get plenty of chances to put mariota on his back this season.
 
bruin228

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Mame YO said:
Not trying to be an irrational fan, but I wish the ducks weren't so willing to abandon the run game under frost/Helfrich. Yeah, robo QB. But also, teams willing to pass rush repeatedly are going to get plenty of chances to put mariota on his back this season.
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They've got 224 yards rushing right now, they may run it less but it doesn't mean they aren't good at it. 10+ YPC
 
Brick

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Mame YO said:
Not trying to be an irrational fan, but I wish the ducks weren't so willing to abandon the run game under frost/Helfrich. Yeah, robo QB. But also, teams willing to pass rush repeatedly are going to get plenty of chances to put mariota on his back this season.
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i think outside of tyner this year they've rushed for a billion yards per carry. freeman has been bawse. i think they know he's the best back but are trying to keep him fresh for the entire game.

couldn't be much more pleased with the offense so far this season. the way they have used marshall as a hybrid has been great, and new skill players have really stepped in nicely.

and in this game with mariota in they scored a TD every drive with the exception of being stopped on 4th down at the wyoming one on that first drive.

wyoming has been very impressive on offense and they still only have seven points.
 
Mame YO

Mame YO

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Well yeah, they'll run it down a bad teams' throat and statistically they're still one of the best rushing teams every year. One of the irrational knocks on Kelly was that he was too stubborn and wouldn't abandon the run when it was needed... Now the irrational knock is that the team starts looking a little air raid-y when the run is getting stuffed.

I'll take it. Like I said, I'm not trying to be irrational or picky because at the end of the day production is what matters. It just seems obvious that the bias has shifted. Helfrich/frost have always been passing game guys anyway, and they do have mariota ATM so it's not super surprising. I guess I'm making more of an observation than I am complaining.
 
bruin228

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Taylor Kelly is apparently going to miss the UCLA game. Good for the Bruins I guess, but I'd rather beat a team at full strength and it sucks to see someone get banged up their senior year.
 
ebarws6

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Lol who is worse
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Well you caught me in my drunken celebration haha. BC is for sure pretty low on the list in terms of power conferences. Just wanted to somehow let Mr. Herbstreit know through Utopia that he could suck my whole dick for saying the only thing USC had to worry about in the game was falling asleep from the worst big game atmosphere in the country. And Mr. Herbstreit can continue to do just as I said.
 
Brick

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ucla vindicated its preseason hype thursday, guys. they held ASU and their backup qb to under 650 yards offense.
 
pavel

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they did score more points against ASU at home than anyone ever has, though. Or are we leaving that out?
 
Brick

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i am trying to build up the game in two weeks. so yes, i am leaving that out.

in that spirit: you ain't going to have a 100 yard kick return and pick six every game

ucla peaked on thursday. :smoking:
 
Brick

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When you gain first downs you tend to run more plays.

I'm tryin hard to keep this interesting. I need some of you sideline usc fairwhwther guys or mak to spice this shit up.
 
BasinBictory

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Game was on too late, and conflicted with the Matlock reruns. Fell asleep during 4th quarter.

Looks like USC does just fine against traditional drop-back pocket passers (read: slow, clear, immobile). Offense does well when they mix things up. Whodathunkit? In any case, nice win for USC, but Oregon State doesn't scare anybody.
 
RedmondLonghorn

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BasinBictory said:
Game was on too late, and conflicted with the Matlock reruns. Fell asleep during 4th quarter.

Looks like USC does just fine against traditional drop-back pocket passers (read: slow, clear, immobile). Offense does well when they mix things up. Whodathunkit? In any case, nice win for USC, but Oregon State doesn't scare anybody.
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Wilcox always had Stanford's number at UW. Doesn't seem to know what to do when confronted with Zone Reads with arc blocks doe. Wonder if Rich Rod and Todd Graham noticed that?
 
TrojanMan

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BasinBictory said:
Game was on too late, and conflicted with the Matlock reruns. Fell asleep during 4th quarter.

Looks like USC does just fine against traditional drop-back pocket passers (read: slow, clear, immobile). Offense does well when they mix things up. Whodathunkit? In any case, nice win for USC, but Oregon State doesn't scare anybody.
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Sadly, it was about as uninspiring as a 35-10 win can be. Certainly 'luck' can have an impact on any game, but we had a pick-6, another pick in the end zone as the Beavers were ready to score, and then the hail mary TD as time expired at half time. Take two of those away, and the game may have unfolded very differently. Oh, and let's not forget converting 3 of 3 4th downs, including one WTF? moment when Sark went for it from our own 30.

The good:
-Kessler was solid. I'm not quite as down on him as Basin, but I think we all know he's not a superstar QB who's going to win a title on his own. That being said, he moved well, he was very accurate while on the run, and he made good decisions. He's got 10 TD's and 0 picks on the year, so far.

-Su'a Cravens. Dude looked like he was just playing faster than everyone else on the field. He was everywhere.

-D-line did a decent job. Not a great job, but a decent job. They made Mannion move his feet, and that gets him into trouble.


The bad/ugly:
-O-line let way too much pressure in on Kessler.

-Dem penalties. Lawd. 14 for 124 yards. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

I don't know what to think yet, and the season's a third over. There's enough talent to beat UCLA, ASU, Oregon (if we and they got to the CCG), but there's also so little depth and such sloppy play at times that losses to mediocre/shitty teams wouldn't surprise me.
 
BasinBictory

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Thus far through four games, I'm also not sure what I expect to see from USC. The team on both offense and defense has a Jekyll/Hyde quality where they look solid, sometimes even spectacular in one game, and then completely WTFLOL incompetent another week.

Kessler is one of those guys who is a solid player, a good leader and all around good guy, and is smart enough to make those heady plays like throwing the ball away instead of taking a sack when we're in FG range. However, he's basically fighting above his weight class. He's like a 205-lb. heavyweight boxer with good footwork and a decent jab, but who is never going to contend against other legit heavyweights.

Su'a Cravens is a beast. Here's hoping he stays healthy because he's easily the most talented player we have on the defense, perhaps the whole team.
 
RedmondLonghorn

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TrojanMan said:
-Dem penalties. Lawd. 14 for 124 yards. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.
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I like Sarkisian relatively well, but this is just a reality that you have to get used to: his teams commit lots of penalties. He always says "we need to get that fixed" and he never does. So just accept it.
 
Brick

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To me, USC is just a meh 8-4 or 7-5 team, to me. I think their road schedule is rough.

If you're a merely good team I'd rather have the borderline games at home. @Zona, Utah, and Wazzu? Ugh. Each one of those can be losses.

The home field advantage is wasted on Colorado and Cal.
 
Dr. Shats Basoon

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Poor Ducks.
I didn't see the game but the box score and ESPN article made it look like the Wildcats just played the better game
 
Lightningwar

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I feel like Oregon has completely missed multiple opportunities to take control of the Pac 12 over the last few years.
 
Brick

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people don't give furd enough credit. they've been the best the past two years.

Oregon won 3 shampships in a row from 09-11 going 26-2 and pwning everyone. can't keep it going forever. program peaked.

I feel it's similar to the end of usc's run earlier. in '06 and '07 they went 7-2 both years and tied with cal and ASU (man the league sucked back then) for the titles and just ran over teams in the BCS bowls (Michigan and Illinois). one of those years they lost to a shitty UCLA team which kept them out of the title game. the next year they lost to Oregon state on the road with sanchise which kept them out of the title game.

Oregon gon USC. could have been in the title game last year if they didn't lose that Arizona game. could have been in the title game two years ago if they didn't lose to furd. could have been in three years ago if they didn't lose to USC.

really tough to sustain that success. Oregon prolly should have had a title out of it, but the ultimate robo QB kept them out (cam juice).
 
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TrojanMan

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Brick said:
Oregon won 3 shampships in a row from 09-11 going 26-2 and pwning everyone. can't keep it going forever. program peaked.

I feel it's similar to the end of usc's run earlier.
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Oh hell no. SC won 7 straight leagues, 2 national titles, a ton of Rose Bowls, etc. Oregon's run isn't/wasn't in the same universe.

GTfO emo duck.

dem pink and black unis last night doe. Would trade 2 titles and a Heisman for those.
 
BasinBictory

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The only similarity is that the PAC-12 is notorious for producing the WTFOMGLOLGTFO upset that trips up the overwhelming favorite, and because of the fucking media having the SEC West's giant penis in its mouth, and the SEC East's slightly smaller penis in its ass, keeps any 1-loss PAC-12 team out of the title picture. I do think USC 2008 was actually Pete's strongest overall team. It didn't have the firepower on offense of the Leinart-Bush-Jarrett teams of a few years prior, but they were awesome(r) on defense than those teams were. Yet a trip to the cursed state of Oregon tagged them with the one loss that allowed the fighting Tebows into the ship.
 
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