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Let's talk about Bish, babby
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TonyGin&Juice
Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Voiding deals? Good thing you've got a rear crackerjack keeping track of traded picks now...
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
What part of this wasn't public? There have been 1,000 posts about it.
I posted what I did in this thread on page 2. 2,2 for 3,4,4. How many times do I have to post that? 100? Lloyd is fine with the deal and that's all that matters in regards the picks I traded.
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Indeed. I'd also like to not allow deals where WBL players are traded for draft picks post trade deadline.
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I PM'd Lloyd a bunch of times to fix it... I think whatever days it happened I wasn't around a computer that much.
The only thing I did wrong was not include the trade I made with Osick. It was on the bottom of the page of the completed trades thread and I thought I did all the trades on that page but didn't. It was an honest mistake. I thought Lloyd and I worked it out and it was over but people gotta keep going with it.
Well considering that @jdlikewhoa traded the guy that hit the winning HR in game 7, I think something should be done.
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
Then you just make it PTBNL and the same thing is essentially done, so there's no real point to making a rule (and preventing draft day trades is much worse, we'd have to move the draft again)
I'd be down just removing the deadline altogether to be honest, not sure how serious orlando was
I'd be down just removing the deadline altogether to be honest, not sure how serious orlando was
You are just going to see a bunch of PTBNL then. We can move the draft up and/or kill the deadline. Have nots wanted something to do during the playoffs.
New rules are dumb. Doh is just a cunt about it and that's what bothers me (ie signing extension before he sorted the trade out then bragging and acting jilted when anyone protests).
I'm definitely breaking all Doh's dumb contract rules now, though.
I'm definitely breaking all Doh's dumb contract rules now, though.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
It's not just the principle of the thing, the impact matters too. You can't ignore what an impact player Bish is, and how that affects the whole league, and therefore how important it is that the situation come the fairest possible conclusion for the whole league. If this were about lesser players you might come to a fair resolution through other means, but in this case I think the only fair thing is to void the extension and put him back on the market for everyone to have a shot at. That is my vote.
Amateur hour in here.
We're not doing anything.
Doh is always petulant, deal with it. Doh knew he'd make it right, he had to. Thatargumentisinvalid.jpg
I tried getting rid of the trades osick is tom bout.
Didn't work because PTBNL.
Didn't matter because person who gets the player risks injury through the season.
Timing of the draft means it is an inevitability.
I've traded other people's picks before as well, also didn't care because i knew I'd fix it by giving more than I originally had to.
We're not doing anything.
Doh is always petulant, deal with it. Doh knew he'd make it right, he had to. Thatargumentisinvalid.jpg
I tried getting rid of the trades osick is tom bout.
Didn't work because PTBNL.
Didn't matter because person who gets the player risks injury through the season.
Timing of the draft means it is an inevitability.
I've traded other people's picks before as well, also didn't care because i knew I'd fix it by giving more than I originally had to.
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I'm being a "cunt" about it because I've answered the same questions 10 times. I.E. in this thread @jdlikewhoa DEMANDS TO KNOW what I gave Lloyd to make it right when I posted what we agreed on 5 posts before him.
Most teams in the league have double traded picks. It happened at least 2-3 times per season in the years I updated the thread. I forgot to add the osick picks I traded away and it screwed up my system which led to me double trading those picks. I made an honest mistake after updating that damn thread tons of seasons. I paid a price (gave up 2 2's vs. a 3,4,4 plus have gotten @'d 100 times).
Most teams in the league have double traded picks. It happened at least 2-3 times per season in the years I updated the thread. I forgot to add the osick picks I traded away and it screwed up my system which led to me double trading those picks. I made an honest mistake after updating that damn thread tons of seasons. I paid a price (gave up 2 2's vs. a 3,4,4 plus have gotten @'d 100 times).
We are, the league always huffs and puffs and then let's it go. Although with the new blood who hasn't been around for a while it may be different now.
You said yourself you're just mad he's petulant, so if you're going to take action based on that then good luck keeping this thing afloat.
Here are the things that matter in my opinion.
- Everybody but the new guys have traded picks that weren't theirs before. It happens. Most apologize, then there is doh and I.
- Doh knew he was going to make it right with lloyd, it was never in question that lloyd would be screwed in doh's mind.
- Doh signs bish because why wait? Trade will be taken care of, guys flip to wanting FA sometimes and vice versa. Sign him now.
- Travis mad. I get that, I've been on all three sides of this I think. Definitely doh's and travis' side.
- Whole thing comes down to how doh handled it, which punishing people over is stupid. Punish if the act warrants and in this case it doesn't since it's happened before. It wasn't a Machiavellian attempt by doh to screw travis with the cherry on top being that he used travis' pick to do it.
doh could have said my bad and made it easier on hisself, but he didn't. If doh had said sorry then this wouldn't be an issue. If he had waited until the trade was fixed to sign bish this wouldn't be an issue. If the trade deadline didn't move up 2 weeks randomly this wouldn't be an issue.
punish him if you want, but people mess up when we're trading picks 4-5 times over every year. I tried banning traded picks too because this happens enough that people get all rowdy rod piper and cause this shit to happen. Didn't work.
What we should all take from this is that the opposition I faced in the formative years of the WBL is to blame.
- Everybody but the new guys have traded picks that weren't theirs before. It happens. Most apologize, then there is doh and I.
- Doh knew he was going to make it right with lloyd, it was never in question that lloyd would be screwed in doh's mind.
- Doh signs bish because why wait? Trade will be taken care of, guys flip to wanting FA sometimes and vice versa. Sign him now.
- Travis mad. I get that, I've been on all three sides of this I think. Definitely doh's and travis' side.
- Whole thing comes down to how doh handled it, which punishing people over is stupid. Punish if the act warrants and in this case it doesn't since it's happened before. It wasn't a Machiavellian attempt by doh to screw travis with the cherry on top being that he used travis' pick to do it.
doh could have said my bad and made it easier on hisself, but he didn't. If doh had said sorry then this wouldn't be an issue. If he had waited until the trade was fixed to sign bish this wouldn't be an issue. If the trade deadline didn't move up 2 weeks randomly this wouldn't be an issue.
punish him if you want, but people mess up when we're trading picks 4-5 times over every year. I tried banning traded picks too because this happens enough that people get all rowdy rod piper and cause this shit to happen. Didn't work.
What we should all take from this is that the opposition I faced in the formative years of the WBL is to blame.
We'll see how the vote lands, but to say "nothing is going to be done" when 7 of the 18 people have already voted to void the contract means you had no intention of letting the league decide, which is fine, but just say that from the outset. Still a few people who haven't voted in the poll yet and only need 3 votes... (and only 1 official vote against)
Plus the fact that Doh instituted half the fucking contract rules in the league and is CONTRACT COP makes it even more frustrating when he crosses the line and faces 0 repercussions. Are we bowling or is this Vietnam?
6-1 still doe, so the league isn't just "letting it go," which is my point. To me, Doh crossed the cunt line, to me.
It isn't JUST about double trading, doh. It is about you signing an extension before the double trade issue was even cleared up and then acting all fucking put out when your DEMANDS for the trade re-arrangement weren't instantly met.
And you never did offer me actual restitution for using my 4th round pick in that trade, you were a flippant bitch about it. I do consider it an affront that you used one of my picks to acquire bish.
And you never did offer me actual restitution for using my 4th round pick in that trade, you were a flippant bitch about it. I do consider it an affront that you used one of my picks to acquire bish.
guardman23
Well-Known Member
I blame fluff
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
What demands? I thought I had settled with Lloyd 1-2 days too after the trade was posted. The extension wasn't signed until 2 or 3 sims later. What the hell are you even talking about anymore?
I'm willing to compensate you if you come up with a screenshot of the PM. I don't know why I'd randomly put our deal was for a '57 4th if it was for a '55. I've already come up with the offer of a 2087 8th too.
I'm willing to compensate you if you come up with a screenshot of the PM. I don't know why I'd randomly put our deal was for a '57 4th if it was for a '55. I've already come up with the offer of a 2087 8th too.
Bish was extended before the trade was finalized. That's why I started bitchin.
I've already posted proof you took my 4 th in 2055 before making the trade offer for my 2057 4th, which you did not own . Your 8th round pick "offer" was flippant and insincere. Go fuck yourself
I've already posted proof you took my 4 th in 2055 before making the trade offer for my 2057 4th, which you did not own . Your 8th round pick "offer" was flippant and insincere. Go fuck yourself
I have no power here, how can i decide anything?
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
So glad I went to bed early last night. Happy mothers day you animals.
NML
Well-Known Member
I hate the argument of "everyone double trades picks, so it's okay."
To hell with that - keep track of ur picks. I mean how difficult is it? I trade as much as almost anyone but I've never double traded a pick because I'm aware when I send a pick out.
Sorry @doh that it has to be you, but trading assets you don't have is absurd.
VOID
To hell with that - keep track of ur picks. I mean how difficult is it? I trade as much as almost anyone but I've never double traded a pick because I'm aware when I send a pick out.
Sorry @doh that it has to be you, but trading assets you don't have is absurd.
VOID
NML
Well-Known Member
Also, I think moving forward, we should have a rule in place for double trading picks
1) you give up the same pick in the next year to the person you made the deal with
2) you sacrifice that pick in the draft two years away
Example: I double trade my 2058 second round pick to Travis and Tony, in that order. Tony gets my 2059 second rounder, and I lose my 2060 second rounder.
1) you give up the same pick in the next year to the person you made the deal with
2) you sacrifice that pick in the draft two years away
Example: I double trade my 2058 second round pick to Travis and Tony, in that order. Tony gets my 2059 second rounder, and I lose my 2060 second rounder.
Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
You need a unanimous decision.
Lloyd Carr
Well-Known Member
whoops, I thought the poll was about rearranging divisions.
ignore my vote.
ignore my vote.
guardman23
Well-Known Member
it isn't "everyone trades them", it's "everyone has made the mistake". There's a difference, we don't all try to game each other but sometimes it slips and it always ends in a better deal for the other party.
There are hills to fight over. I've seen a few hill battles in my time and this definitely isn't one of them. You got one thing voided and immediately regretted it now you're going for another.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
To me,
, to me.
Voted no. I'm surprised doh didn't quit.
, to me.
Voted no. I'm surprised doh didn't quit.
He woulda quit if he had to give up Bish because that's what he is.
NML
Well-Known Member
What is this referring to?
