Snorky's Shame
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The Southland. There’s a lot of room there.
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Conference Constipation Thread 2.0
- Thread starter Renegade
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The Southland. There’s a lot of room there.
silverwheels
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adchester
A-1 From Day 1
Get fucked NUUUTTTTTUYYY III
silverwheels
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Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
There's a whole lot of time for things to go horribly wrong between now & 2025.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
MtneerManiac
Burning Couches
Lol our AD is about to bolt, too.
silverwheels
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OU and Texas will settle with the Big 12 and get out early.
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
The world is gonna end before then
silverwheels
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If they do pods, I've seen on TWATTER that this is the most likely configuration
West: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas
Bayou: LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Central: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina
Play every team in your pod every year and two from each of the other pods for a nine-game conference slate; every team gets to host every other team at least once in a four-year period. This keeps the pods pretty balanced for the most part, although it does split up some big rivalries. Texas-Texas A&M has already been on hiatus so that's not as big a deal, but it also means that we won't get Auburn-Georgia, Arkansas-LSU, or Alabama-LSU every year, among others. I wonder how that will be solved.
West: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas
Bayou: LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Central: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina
Play every team in your pod every year and two from each of the other pods for a nine-game conference slate; every team gets to host every other team at least once in a four-year period. This keeps the pods pretty balanced for the most part, although it does split up some big rivalries. Texas-Texas A&M has already been on hiatus so that's not as big a deal, but it also means that we won't get Auburn-Georgia, Arkansas-LSU, or Alabama-LSU every year, among others. I wonder how that will be solved.
Lightningwar
Administrator
I think they are looking for matchups here. Meaning OU\Texas and Texas\A&M will be every year.
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
Ar-Kansas is kinda a big 12 team
silverwheels
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I think it was so LSU didn’t have by far the easiest pod. All offense intended towards Arkansas.
Snorky's Shame
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I thought you could do pods but have a permanent team in each pod and rotate among the other three teams in the pod so you go six years between visits. It didn’t look good in practice though.
Florida: Vanderbilt, Louisiana State, Texas
Georgia: Auburn, Mississippi, Oklahoma
Kentucky: Tennessee, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
South Carolina: Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri
Alabama: South Carolina, Texas A&M, Louisiana State
Auburn: Georgia, Oklahoma, Mississippi State
Tennessee: Kentucky, Texas, Arkansas
Vanderbilt: Florida, Missouri, Mississippi
Arkansas: Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee
Louisiana State: Texas A&M, Florida, Alabama
Mississippi: Texas, Georgia, Vanderbilt
Mississippi State: Oklahoma, Kentucky, Auburn
Missouri: Arkansas, Vanderbilt, South Carolina
Oklahoma: Mississippi State, Auburn, Georgia
Texas: Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida
Texas A&M: Louisiana State, Alabama, Kentucky
Screw it, stick to two divisions, put Oklahoma and Texas in the West and have Alabama, Auburn and Missouri switch divisions. No permanent opponents.
Florida: Vanderbilt, Louisiana State, Texas
Georgia: Auburn, Mississippi, Oklahoma
Kentucky: Tennessee, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
South Carolina: Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri
Alabama: South Carolina, Texas A&M, Louisiana State
Auburn: Georgia, Oklahoma, Mississippi State
Tennessee: Kentucky, Texas, Arkansas
Vanderbilt: Florida, Missouri, Mississippi
Arkansas: Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee
Louisiana State: Texas A&M, Florida, Alabama
Mississippi: Texas, Georgia, Vanderbilt
Mississippi State: Oklahoma, Kentucky, Auburn
Missouri: Arkansas, Vanderbilt, South Carolina
Oklahoma: Mississippi State, Auburn, Georgia
Texas: Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida
Texas A&M: Louisiana State, Alabama, Kentucky
Screw it, stick to two divisions, put Oklahoma and Texas in the West and have Alabama, Auburn and Missouri switch divisions. No permanent opponents.
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
Draw straws.
Snorky's Shame
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I guess they would get rid of divisions and just take the two best records to face off in Atlanta.
What happens if there’s a three-way tie at the top and none of the schools played each other? Or a situation where Oklahoma goes 8-1 and beats out Florida at 7-2 for second but Florida played a much tougher schedule. Only playing 60% of your conference doesn’t seem right but 8/13 like the ACC is similar to 9/15.
Lightningwar
Administrator
Anchorman style battle royale. Only ground rules, leave the face alone.
Lightningwar
Administrator
If they get big enough turn it into an NFL style playoff including how the winners of each division are determined.
Brick
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you think a 1 vs. 2 loss scenario is tricky? bahahahahahaha. wait until 4-4 bama wins their division via 3 way tiebreaker and EARNS IT ON DA FIELD in the semifinals and finals. just wait.
i saw how people treated oregon's fake COVID pac-12 shampship. PROVED IT ON DA FIELD HAVE THE TROPHY, DONT THEY?
this gonna be entertaining at least.
Snorky's Shame
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Don’t give them any ideas.
Mr. Radpants
Trog Five Standing By
Bama
ESPN likes this
NML
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not sure why they arent playing year round already. go ahead and create a few giant conferences that play each other once. combine it with a champions league style playoff of the top x teams from each group. stagger kick-off times and dates and pretty sure this would just print money for everybody. ncaa has no purpose at this point so just move on. anything outside of the top 50 teams are basically 1-aa anyways. apologies to that one ucf fan we have
MtneerManiac
Burning Couches
NML
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lol the nfl makes about double the next closest professional league in the world. why wouldnt they look to replicate that?
also, the sec is the golden goose now
ur in the wvu fans group in my mind
I'm akin to a Salt Peel in South African parlance. One foot in WV one foot in FL, johnson in the Atlantic.
Sorry that's soutpiel upon review. Ma'southafrican former co-worker who was terminated for time card fraud by giving his direct report he was banging more PTO never spelled it out.
Renegade
Charge on!
Because there's no reason to watch CFB if you can just watch elite players in the NFL. There's no competitive differentiation, and so the college fanbase will shrink even more than it already has. The only thing that keeps college basketball relevant is the unique setup for March Madness. I'm sure the SEC will change that too so that we can have the same 16 to 24 teams every year in that.
NML
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people watch cfb because 1) they have attachments to schools they attended and/or weird attachments to a big school in their state and 2) the nfl isnt on
neither of those is changing. and the same is true of ur cbb example - people watch march madness because its on at 12:00 on a thursday, not because they are dying to see florida gulf coast vs creighton
coogrfan
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What could possibly go wrong?
Renegade
Charge on!
You couldn't be more wrong. People watch March Madness to see the upsets and the, you know, Madness. No one would bother watching a regular season game at noon on Thursday just because it's on.
And a lot of those CFB fans are about to see their teams relegated to irrelevance. An Iowa State fan isn't going to change their fandom to Iowa just because Iowa is still in a big boy conference. This is going to shrink CFB's fan base and reduce the competitive differentiation with the NFL. It's the same reason there's so many soccer fans in the US that won't watch MLS but will watch the EPL...why watch minor league mediocrity when you can watch the same thing with elite players?
coogrfan
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I disagree. The best thing about the NFL is the common draft. Your favorite team can be complete garbage, but at least you still have hope that they will get better.
That ain't happening in a semi-pro "haves only" league. If recruiting is the only method available to acquire talent there will be a more or less permanent hierarchy: a few schools at or near the top every year, a bunch in the middle, and a group at the bottom who will likely be stuck there in perpetuity. Thanks, but no thanks.
Renegade
Charge on!
If we're going to this shit, we just need to end the whole student-athlete farce. There are soccer clubs in Europe and Latin America that are or were based around affiliation with colleges. BYU's men's soccer team isn't in the NCAA - they played in the Premier Development League - USL League Two - until a couple of years ago with semi-pro guys. I think they've downgraded it to a club team now, but basically this is what needs to be done if all this bullshit continues. Form it as a pro league, players get drafted not recruited, pay the players per game like any other pro-sport, and they don't even have to be enrolled students. Not sure what the point of it is at that point, but at least it'd be honest. Oh, and tax the hell out of it...none of this nonprofit/governmental university non-taxed bullshit.
NML
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if they aren’t going to change their fandom due to conference realignment, then why is the fan base shrinking? either realignment has an effect on fans or it doesn’t.
the mls/epl comparison is really bad too. epl is around 400k vi per game, while mls is around 300k. it’s a difference but it’s not noticeable. people just don’t really care about soccer period in the usa
pretty sure that’s exactly what we have now
coogrfan
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Fair enough.
Here's the problem: in a semi-pro league like Renegade is describing, you're gonna see teams facing more good teams than they used to. That means there are going to be a bunch of formerly elite programs going 7-5/6-6/5-7 on a regular basis. How you gonna sell that to alums who are accustomed to thinking of an 8 win season as a down year?
