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Completely Awful Nebraska Football Thread - LOL blackshits

TXHusker05

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Brick said:
Not getting the Mullen hype. They had a few hot games against overrated teams. He should jump this off season because I doubt he ever duplicates the success of this year.
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What's not to get? What he's done at Mississippi State is magic considering where that program was. I have wanted Mullen to be at Nebraska since well before they even had their success this year. He is a great coach and everything Nebraska needs. No idea if he'd leave, no idea if Nebraska would target him but he'd be perfect.
 
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yeah, not sure how you don't like what Dan Mullen has done at Mississippi State. Especially being the man behind Tebow's magic at Florida. And if you can win at MSU, you can pretty much win anywhere. MSU probably is the toughest job in the SEC, besides Vandy.
 
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bruin said:
yeah, not sure how you don't like what Dan Mullen has done at Mississippi State. Especially being the man behind Tebow's magic at Florida. And if you can win at MSU, you can pretty much win anywhere. MSU probably is the toughest job in the SEC, besides Vandy.
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Yep, I wouldn't wish the Mississippi State gig on anyone. How the hell do you recruit at MSU? The really good players in your state and the surrounding states have been taken by Alabama and friends, the players left you're splitting evenly with Ole Miss. The facilities and support aren't on par with the rest of the SEC and it's real tough to sell MSU as a contender, no matter how much success you've had. All that considered, Dan Mullen still has a Top 20 recruiting class. That's nothing short of a miracle.

And all of that aside, Dan Mullen is one hell of a coach. The guy is a QB whisperer. He made Tim Tebow into not just a competent QB, but a championship winning Heisman QB. He's not the only one. He made Chris Leak into something, he's made Dak Prescott into a Heisman candidate, he made Alex Smith into a #1 draft pick. Hell his resume for making mediocre quarterbacks into beasts is good enough for me, that's something Nebraska as sorely lacked for a long time now.

The side benefit of Dan Mullen going to Nebraska (or Michigan) is that Mark Hudspeth would be the obvious candidate to take over at MSU and he has deserved a Power 5 gig for a long, long time.
 
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People forget Alex Smith wasn't even the starting QB at Utah. The starting QB went down in the 2nd game of the Urban era and Mullen developed him into something special.
 
Travis7401

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I was watching that 1995 huskers highlight vid and noticed that shovel option to Ahman Green multiple times... Dan Mullen sure loved that play at Florida (and I think even at Utah).
 
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Travis7401 said:
I was watching that 1995 huskers highlight vid and noticed that shovel option to Ahman Green multiple times... Dan Mullen sure loved that play at Florida (and I think even at Utah).
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Unpossible. You can't compare Tom Osborne's manball football miracles to any of this newfangled chuck and duck garbage!
 
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Travis7401 said:
I was watching that 1995 huskers highlight vid and noticed that shovel option to Ahman Green multiple times... Dan Mullen sure loved that play at Florida (and I think even at Utah).
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Yep, Nebraska had two shovel options. One tied to sprintout and one tied to counter sweep. The sprintout one was usually from the 2x2 Gun set, end man got left unblocked and when he came up field thinking sprintout pass, pitch to the back coming underneath.

The Counter Sweep shovel pass was the deadly one though out of the single back formations. OL blocked counter sweep, except the backside tackle stayed home to wall off backside pursuit and instead of logging the playside EMOL, the pulling BSG bypassed him and got to the second level. IB took the same footwork, QB sprinted out and then pitched off the end man.

Shit was deadly because those guys have so much to think about defensively that every damn time they just forgot the IB was still there. Ran it just 12 times that year, but scored 3 TD on it. Pretty much an automatic 8 yards.
 
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I have been hearing some rumblings of Greg Schiano...I hope to hell that is not true...he would be the worst of Pelini and Callahan rolled into one, smelly turd sandwich. If Tressel is out (and it sounds like he is according to his agent), then Mullen would be my next choice, followed by Frost.
 
TXHusker05

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Schiano would have me rethinking how much I want to be a Nebraska fan. I don't think I can support someone like that.

Bring me Dan Mullen and/or Scott Frost as well.
 
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So new coach is Mike Riley. Not sure how I feel about that. I have no idea who he is. Any of you know know what type of coach Mike Riley is?
 
TXHusker05

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Spaceballs3000 said:
So new coach is Mike Riley. Not sure how I feel about that. I have no idea who he is. Any of you know know what type of coach Mike Riley is?
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An incredibly nice, energetic guy who recruits like hell and his players love him.

But also a guy who hasn't ever won his division (won two Grey Cups tho). The coordinator hires will define this. If Riley pairs up with some legit coordinators, it'll be an amazing hire. If he hires retread coordinators, not so much.
 
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Do you think there's any legitimate chance that this hire is a setup to pick up Frost as an OC and coach in waiting? Riley doesn't look it but he's 61 so he's semi close to retirement and it could allow Frost to spend more time coaching in Lincoln until he takes the head job. I know Riley's not really a spread guy but that's the only way this hire makes sense to me.
 
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bruin228 said:
Do you think there's any legitimate chance that this hire is a setup to pick up Frost as an OC and coach in waiting? Riley doesn't look it but he's 61 so he's semi close to retirement and it could allow Frost to spend more time coaching in Lincoln until he takes the head job. I know Riley's not really a spread guy but that's the only way this hire makes sense to me.
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I do think there is a chance. Apparently Riley and Frost know each other well. If Frost isn't ready to get an HC job somewhere, I bet we can find the $800K to pry him out of the Nike Department Store and corch up an offense.
 
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fonzilla said:
Isn't his offense TE centric, ala Wisconsin including the undercenter jet sweeps???
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Very TE centric... if they have them. Which is rare. Apparently they have a bunch of TEs committed to this class that Nebraska fans already want to poach. Lots of sweeps if they have a guy for them. Jacquizz Rodgers comes to mind. That little fucker was amazing in OSU's offense and Nebraska has the perfect guy for it right now, De'Morney Pierson-El. Was a true freshman last year and probably the best punt returner in the nation, got worked into the offense as the year went on and had some big plays including a TD pass.
 
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TXHusker05 said:
Very TE centric... if they have them. Which is rare. lots of sweeps if they have a guy for them. Jacquizz Rodgers comes to mind. That little fucker was amazing in OSU's offense and Nebraska has the perfect guy for it right now, De'Morney Pierson-El. Was a true freshman last year and probably the best punt returner in the nation, got worked into the offense as the year went on and had some big plays including a TD pass.
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Wasn't it Jacquizz's brother the one who was the WR???
 
TXHusker05

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I'm more and more excited about it, but that excitement can vanish in a hurry if he fucks up the coordinator hires.
 
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I am a fan of Mike Riley's. He has always been nothing but pure class and he does the best he can in a very difficult place to win. And unlike Dennis Erickson, the only other modern coach to win much of anything in Corvalis, his teams aren't comprised of nothing but thugs and morons.

With that said, I think this is a spectacularly bad hire when you consider the other possibilities that were out there and the fact that not many of those possibilities seem to have been given much consideration.
 
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RedmondLonghorn said:
I am a fan of Mike Riley's. He has always been nothing but pure class and he does the best he can in a very difficult place to win. And unlike Dennis Erickson, the only other modern coach to win much of anything in Corvalis, his teams aren't comprised of nothing but thugs and morons.

With that said, I think this is a spectacularly bad hire when you consider the other possibilities that were out there and the fact that not many of those possibilities seem to have been given much consideration.
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It sounds more and more like he was the only target.

Bret Bielema's agent is clearly fucking around with a few members of the media. Yesterday it was hinting that Nebraska had interest, today after Riley was hired it was hinting that he was offered the job. No one who would know thinks Bielema and Eichorst even spoke. The other names commonly linked like Mullen and Frost and Tressel were never even contacted. Well, it sounds like Frost was contacted but not for head coach, which is interesting.

The only name that has come out with any credible source as being talked to was Kyle Whittingham. He would have been an interesting hire.
 
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Bert's agent just wants to get his client a well deserved raise for that amazing 6-6 season he just put together.
 
Plotty

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Riley already doin work, getting coaching staff in line and flipping recruits.

Fuck the 2015 why give a damn bowl minus ameer and Kenny, and let's get ready for next season.
 
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Plotty said:
Holiday Bowl v. USC. Meh.
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My thoughts exactly. I wish the new staff would just take over right away and coach the team in the bowl game. At least they'd get 3 weeks of reps in a new offense and get used them a bit before winter and then spring ball.

At least it is the Holiday Bowl and not the Music City Bowl or some bullshit get kilt by Auburn in Florida bowl.
 
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Honestly, I am pretty sure this experiment is going to end in fucking disaster. Mike Riley is hiring a bunch of his garbage assistants from Oregon State, so he will likely have 2-3 losing seasons, and Scott Frost will be named our next head coach, circa 2018-2019. Harvey Pearlman and Shawn Eichorst will be thrown out into the garbage heap, ala Pedercunt.

Scott Frost will lead us to a Big Ten Championship and a playoff berth in 2021, 20 years to the day that we got curb stomped by Miami.

If this board in still around in 7 years, please bump this thread. I think I am going to take a break from Husker football for a few years.
 
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Yeah I don't have a whole lot of faith in this experiment ending well, especially if these assistant hires keep up. Riley had a good shot to make a splash with assistant hires and it looks like all he's done is hire OSU people.

Still holding out hope that the offensive coordinator hire is a good one.
 
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Honestly, the only reason Eichorst hired this guy is because he has some sort of "Mayberry/Andy Griffith" personality going on for him, and SE eats that shit up. Eichorst puts a lot of stock in positive thinking, motivational bullhonkey, and that was his criteria for choosing this next coach. He didn't care about credentials or records...he cared about getting somebody that was the polar opposite of Pelini. So, the end result is that we get a super nice 62 year old geezer that is going to hire his lifelong friends and collect a few million dollars of buyout money before he rides off into the sunset to enjoy a quiet retirement.

The thing is...good graces only go so far. It's a lot more important for the Nebraska coach to win games then sit around the fire and sing Kum ba yah. The honeymoon is going to be very short this time...If I had to guess, this is our Howard Schnellenberger hire. We'll get it right next time...Unfortunately, Tom Osborne will probably be dead by then. Frank Solich for AD!
 
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bighuskermav said:
Honestly, the only reason Eichorst hired this guy is because he has some sort of "Mayberry/Andy Griffith" personality going on for him, and SE eats that shit up. Eichorst puts a lot of stock in positive thinking, motivational bullhonkey, and that was his criteria for choosing this next coach. He didn't care about credentials or records...he cared about getting somebody that was the polar opposite of Pelini. So, the end result is that we get a super nice 62 year old geezer that is going to hire his lifelong friends and collect a few million dollars of buyout money before he rides off into the sunset to enjoy a quiet retirement.

The thing is...good graces only go so far. It's a lot more important for the Nebraska coach to win games then sit around the fire and sing Kum ba yah. The honeymoon is going to be very short this time...If I had to guess, this is our Howard Schnellenberger hire. We'll get it right next time...Unfortunately, Tom Osborne will probably be dead by then. Frank Solich for AD!
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Yeah, Eichorst is all over that positive hippie bullshit. It sounded like there were quite a few coaches interested in the job that didn't even get a call back. Riley has a shot to make a huge splash hire at offensive coordinator, if he can do that, I might buy back in a bit but hiring Banker rather than going for Kevin Steele is disappointing. I thought a bit part of Riley's thinking was hiring the best possible staff, well, surely there are better assistants out there than this.
 
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The only good thing that will come out of this is getting rid of Harvey Pearlman...that dude has been fucking up our program for way too long.
 
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bighuskermav said:
The only good thing that will come out of this is getting rid of Harvey Pearlman...that dude has been fucking up our program for way too long.
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I like Harvey as a person, but yeah it is time for him to move on. If the Riley experiment doesn't work out, everyone will be gone and it'll be fully burned to the ground for someone to start building back up.

You hit on the key thing though, everyone knows Scott Frost will be Nebraska's head coach, everything else is just delaying that. My big worry is that Eichorst made this hire trying to fit to his whole motivation hippie bullshit, but he bolts to Wisconsin when Alvarez retires without seeing it through. Then we got left with Riley, who cannot possibly have many more miles in his tank and need to do this all over again.

I honestly would have rather rolled with Frost and just seen what he could do. Even if it meant giving him 10 years. Hell, 15 years. 9-3 with the occasional division championship is a lot easier to swallow when the head coach gets Nebraska and what it is all about. Bo never really got Nebraska. That closed off, us vs the fans/media/world mentality may work in places like Ohio and the south, but not in Nebraska. That disconnect is what ruined Bo, not his records or blowouts or telling the fans to go fuck themselves, just the disconnect between him and the program and the program and the state. I think Frost would get that. And from a football perspective, I think Frost would be better anyway. If Frost's teams truly failed on the field and we totally regressed, then letting him go would be an easy and likely mutual decision.

It would have been nice if Eichorst just had the balls do make a truly splash hire rather than hire the football corch version of him.
 
Spaceballs3000

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If Riley fails we all know Chancellor Perlman and AD Eichorst will both be gone. That is about the only good thing I see happening out of this big mess. I hope Mike Riley does well, I really do. Otherwise, we have seen this show before and it won't be pretty when it ends.
 
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TXHusker05 said:
My thoughts exactly. I wish the new staff would just take over right away and coach the team in the bowl game. At least they'd get 3 weeks of reps in a new offense and get used them a bit before winter and then spring ball.

At least it is the Holiday Bowl and not the Music City Bowl or some bullshit get kilt by Auburn in Florida bowl.
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Which bowl would you have preferred? Seems like a pretty equitable matchup, but with a lame duck coach and staff, the results can be unpredictable.
 
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BasinBictory said:
Which bowl would you have preferred? Seems like a pretty equitable matchup, but with a lame duck coach and staff, the results can be unpredictable.
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The Holiday Bowl is the only bowl I would have preferred, the other options were going back to Florida again and playing Georgia again so I'm perfectly okay with the bowl we got.

I also think playing USC gives us the best opportunity to win a bowl, I just don't think we will.
 
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RedmondLonghorn said:
The Holiday Bowl is, all things considered, a pretty awesome bowl game.
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I went a few times when it was a Big 12 bowl and Nebraska played Arizona and Washington. The trip was a lot of fun, even if the stadium is a total dump. San Diego is amazing, a ton to do, great weather, can't ask for much more from a bowl.

My favorite bowl trip remains the Alamo Bowl, I really wish the Big Ten could get affiliated with that again. San Antonio is amazing, the Alamo Bowl puts on a ton of great events and it was always an enjoyable game environment.

Least favorite bowl trip is the Citrus Bowl and its various sponsor versions. Orlando sucks, Disney sucks and that stadium could be torn down and replaced with a trash heap and still be a more enjoyable place to watch a game. Team hotel was always nice though.

Second least favorite bowl trip was the pre-Jerry Dome Cotton Bowl. The old Cotton Bowl suuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
 
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