Carolina Blue
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Fowler/Walker +1 on McIlroy/Poulter. Poulter just gave the ultimate Poulterface after a chip-in on 15. Such a douche. Would be a huge win for the U.S.
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CJ _24 Get to the Point Thread
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USA. Us. U. . . . . Why is web Simpson on the team? This team is full of overrated players and whiney bitches.
jdlikewhoa
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Michael? He couldn't do worse than the last few captains
CJ_24
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The team this year was no good to begin with. Two of the top players were hurt and a third was suspended for drugs and a forth regular ryder cupper all but retired to assistant captain. Europe beat murrica's jv squad. Europe might have won anyway, but the circumstances preclude me from thinking some eccentric reaction to the american ryder cup is necessarily warranted.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
Nah, the talent wasn't that imbalanced that this was always on the cards. Europe definitely had more talent, but it wasn't like the US was completely awful. Both Europe and the US have won with worse teams than what we threw out there. And I think we had an advantage in depth. Plus Ryder Cup Poulter didn't show up (although Ryder Cup Garcia did).
We lost the Ryder Cup because of alternate shot. Europe had a 7-1 advantage in that format. Even with a talent advantage, that is atrocious. And that format is where it is most important to have some sort of chemistry. I think chemistry is generally overrated, but when the US gets only 1 point, you have to look at the pairings and wonder what the fuck was going on with them.
My issues are...
Not having Reed and Spieth play Friday afternoon after their dominant morning. Keep going with the hot hand.
Playing old ass Phil in both matches on Friday, making him unavailable on Saturday
2 wins since 1993 at the Belfry, it isn't just about this weekend it is a trend. One of those wins was the miracle comeback in 1999.
Not having Reed and Spieth play Friday afternoon after their dominant morning. Keep going with the hot hand.
Playing old ass Phil in both matches on Friday, making him unavailable on Saturday
2 wins since 1993 at the Belfry, it isn't just about this weekend it is a trend. One of those wins was the miracle comeback in 1999.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
I also think the captian's picks were terrible. It would have been nice to take some guys without scar tissue, and instead Watson opts for vets. Ugh. The sooner the Furyk, Mickelson, and yes, Tiger, generation is done at the Ryder Cup, the better. Next team should be headlined by Fowler, Reed, and Speith. Hopefully Horschel, too, because he strikes me as a guy who would be great at the Ryder Cup.
Spieth.
For all of the grief that Phil is getting for answering a question honestly, why is no one saying peep about Watson accepting none of the blame?
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/tom-watson-speaks-steve-sands-after-europe-wins/
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http://www.golfchannel.com/media/tom-watson-speaks-steve-sands-after-europe-wins/
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Yep Watson didn't look comfortable hitting any shot this week. For a non-links course, I expected more out of Bubba
It’s fun to second-guess the choices as soon as they’re made, but this week is where the rubber meets the road. Tom Watson’s first mistake was asking for only three picks instead of the four the PGA of America was willing to grant him; one extra spot would’ve allowed him to take a flier on a Billy Horschel or a Chris Kirk. His second mistake was not pushing the selection date back until after the Tour Championship. If you ask for the world the PGA will give it to you. (See Azinger, Paul.) Watson’s third mistake was having the wrong revelation, as Webb Simpson was clearly a bad call. His fourth mistake was sending Simpson out in the very first match of the Cup (!), with a flighty partner no less, in Bubba Watson. Poor Webb was already on the hot seat, and he never recovered from his ghastly pop-up on the 1st tee, getting benched for the next three sessions. Keegan Bradley and Hunter Mahan were O.K. selections and played decent enough.
Read more: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/r...ns-paul-mcginley-and-tom-watson#ixzz3EiZeg3P6
It’s fun to second-guess the choices as soon as they’re made, but this week is where the rubber meets the road. Tom Watson’s first mistake was asking for only three picks instead of the four the PGA of America was willing to grant him; one extra spot would’ve allowed him to take a flier on a Billy Horschel or a Chris Kirk. His second mistake was not pushing the selection date back until after the Tour Championship. If you ask for the world the PGA will give it to you. (See Azinger, Paul.) Watson’s third mistake was having the wrong revelation, as Webb Simpson was clearly a bad call. His fourth mistake was sending Simpson out in the very first match of the Cup (!), with a flighty partner no less, in Bubba Watson. Poor Webb was already on the hot seat, and he never recovered from his ghastly pop-up on the 1st tee, getting benched for the next three sessions. Keegan Bradley and Hunter Mahan were O.K. selections and played decent enough.
Read more: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/r...ns-paul-mcginley-and-tom-watson#ixzz3EiZeg3P6
Reed is a fucking tool. Fowler has promise but I still think he is overrated at this point in his career and McIlroy just put him in his place, again. Spieth is the best of the bunch imo. I agree with Horschel too.
My thoughts about foursomes would be the pairings. I think in this event especially the two players need to get along with each other and compliment each other's games much more than other events. I don't know that there is a specific formula that works better than another, but something isn't going right there.
My thoughts about foursomes would be the pairings. I think in this event especially the two players need to get along with each other and compliment each other's games much more than other events. I don't know that there is a specific formula that works better than another, but something isn't going right there.
bruin
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We need Anthony Kim back. I want to fucking punch Lefty in the face when he's clapping and giving a thumbs up to another Euro bending us over.
Can't really blame Kim tho.
http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/anthony-kim-ryder-cup-breakout-star-2008-nowhere-be-found
Can't really blame Kim tho.
http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/anthony-kim-ryder-cup-breakout-star-2008-nowhere-be-found
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White people are just too busy watching black people play reel sports.
goblue96
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And it takes place during Super Bowl week. Tigger gets NFL groupie leftovers after he goes 76-74-MC
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
I've still got your sister.
typical.
Carolina Blue
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Tiger...yikes. He looks like a hack out there.
Geoff Ogilvy my shot piece for Golf Digest. Could he be talking about Tiger?
http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2014-12/my-shot-geoff-ogilvy?currentPage=2
http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2014-12/my-shot-geoff-ogilvy?currentPage=2
MSUFanatic
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12 year old Tiger would beat current Tiger.
CJ_24
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It's amazing how far gone Tiger is in his head. This is a dude who was described at the poster child of mental dexterity, basically from his first national appearance in the u.s. am's until Yang beat him with a hybrid and Hazeltine and his ex beat him with a 9 iron in Orlando.
A lot of people point to those two instances (especially the latter) as to why Tiger's game has been aloof, and they're certainly influence, but I think the reason why those things have caused tiger's wheels to go so far off the tracks is because of his father's passing back in 06 (or whenever it was). Tiger's dad, a total ass by most accounts, for better or worse was Tiger's compass. Tiger has admittedly stated that whenever he was going sideways mentally, his dad put his head back in the right place. I think Tiger has been varying levels of lost since losing the PGA to Yang and getting smacked by his ex because he doesn't have his father around to focus him and he won't listen to anyone else.
I think tiger had 3 instructors before 2009 and I think he's on his third or fourth instructor since. Golf is complex sport, but it ain't that complex. the yips (and I don't know how you define that in relation to whatever he's doing, I haven't seen him hit a single golf shot since last summer, so I don't know) are 9.9 times out of 10 an issue of, as cheech said in Tip Cup, "your brain [is] getting in the way."
A lot of people point to those two instances (especially the latter) as to why Tiger's game has been aloof, and they're certainly influence, but I think the reason why those things have caused tiger's wheels to go so far off the tracks is because of his father's passing back in 06 (or whenever it was). Tiger's dad, a total ass by most accounts, for better or worse was Tiger's compass. Tiger has admittedly stated that whenever he was going sideways mentally, his dad put his head back in the right place. I think Tiger has been varying levels of lost since losing the PGA to Yang and getting smacked by his ex because he doesn't have his father around to focus him and he won't listen to anyone else.
I think tiger had 3 instructors before 2009 and I think he's on his third or fourth instructor since. Golf is complex sport, but it ain't that complex. the yips (and I don't know how you define that in relation to whatever he's doing, I haven't seen him hit a single golf shot since last summer, so I don't know) are 9.9 times out of 10 an issue of, as cheech said in Tip Cup, "your brain [is] getting in the way."
I agree and I also question some of the shots he is trying to hit. For example a couple SW approaches last week he is trying to hit a 30 yard fade to the pin, and there is no good reason to do that. IMO he needs to take aim and hit. It's a 100 yard approach with a SW. There is no need to manufacture a shot in that situation. He did the same thing on 16 Friday. Leave the crazy curves to Bubba.
Schauwn
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CJ_24
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I wonder how much that plays into the changes in the golf ball? When Tiger was a kid they used those old golf balls (and clubs) that you could curve the ball more to the point where no scratch level golfer would ever try to hit the ball straight. Maybe that's just how he knows the game, to try to shape the ball...but on the other hand, he's been using the new type of golf balls for over a decade now, so, you know...
goblue96
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Number of fucks Patrick Reed gives: 0.0