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2016-17 Coaching Hot Seat/ Carousel
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Lightningwar
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Ferentz to LSU, done deal. Boosters digging deep on this one.
-0-5 against Bama which was probably, in all likelihood, gonna got to 0-6 this year
-very predictable offense
-bad time management
-eats grass
want me to keep going?
nofx94
Active Member
The grass is hardly the problem. Think it's probably just Bama and the offense. Lol.
I thought Les was due out after the loss, but I didn't predict this immediacy.
Coach O was a good interim for USC. I think he might have a better chance at the LSU job long-term than he did at USC.
I hope Clay Helton makes it through this and next season. And gets the squad to win a fucking game.
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coogrfan
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To be clear, I fully understand that Herman will more than likely leave for a better job. I'm just not sold on the notion that LSU is the best situation he will be offered.
Texas, USC and Notre Dame could all be in play by the end of the year. All three of those are better jobs than LSU, if for no other reason than the fact that they wouldn't be in the same division as Saban.
Texas, USC and Notre Dame could all be in play by the end of the year. All three of those are better jobs than LSU, if for no other reason than the fact that they wouldn't be in the same division as Saban.
saban isnt unbeatable, hell, they almost lost to Ole miss for the 3rd straight year until Ole miss forgot how to football but it wasnt looking good for them for at least the first half of the game. If you couple any loss to ole miss with at least a loss or two to LSU, thats 2 losses on the year for Alabama. They have chinks in their armor too, but that doesnt take away that they are a really good footbaw team, just not invincible.
and didnt Notre Dame just lose to a non FBS school last week? The only place where ND is a better job than LSU is in South Bend.
I'm totally just pulling this out of the air (since we're at the bar) but I think Miles ooc record was pretty good against those teams. Anyone who comes in should get close to 10 wins a year, and just focus on beating bama, and at least, you are in the discussion for playoffs.
thanks brother
ND has won 10 games 3x in the last 10 yrs
in that same span, LSU has won 10 games 6x and fell short of 10 games by one game 2x
but i see the point you are trying to make. I didnt know that agreement that ND had with the BCS was still in play
silverwheels
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plus at ND you can kill a kid and get away with it
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
At SMU, you could kill 5 hookers and get away with it.
I don't know that it is, but Notre Dame is such a power player in college football that if they go 11-1, they are almost certainly in. LSU at 12-1 is getting in over them, but the difficulty for the next 5-10 years for LSU will still be Saban's Bama, so even if they go 11-1, they could miss the CCG and have no shot at the playoff like ND does.
True, but there's a lot of swampland in Louisiana. Saban's probably killed 10x the kids Kelly has killed, you'd just never know.
silverwheels
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Mike Stoops running around like an asshole saying normal people don't understand footbaw and that modern offenses are unstoppable. Bob would never fire him so hopefully they both get AIDS and quit.
R2D2
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Isn't he in his late 60's? He will probably retire within the next couple of years.
Sad The Hat is gone. Hopefully Corch O can beat Bama.
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
If Houston goes to the Big XII and I'm Herman, I'm not leaving. Could do what Gary Patterson has done/upgrade stadium like TCU did. Other paces like ND, Texas, LSU, etc. you have to be good within 3 years or you're done. He could have a longer leash like Patterson during the transition, compete at a high level and not have to play a usually stacked schedule like ND or in the SEC West.
JAR201166
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Nope
silverwheels
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I wonder how much rabbling there will be among OU's big money donors after TCU kicks the shit out of OU on Saturday.
goblue96
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Aren't the boosters too busy lobbying the regents on how shitty all the expansion candidates are?
silverwheels
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Oh yeah.
Stoops to Oklahoma.
Stoops to Oklahoma.
Rutgers Mike
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silverwheels
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Rumors that Texas is going to get rid of Charlie at the end of the year. He's already taken over the defense from Vance Bedford.
JAR201166
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Done deal
Lightningwar
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Gruden to OU, done deal.
Charles Kelly the DC at FSU is blazing hot right now. His bald head is not reflecting the sun, it is radiating from the heat on him.
Charles Kelly the DC at FSU is blazing hot right now. His bald head is not reflecting the sun, it is radiating from the heat on him.
BasinBictory
OUT with the GOUT
So Helton's seat has cooled down a bit since he spanked ASU and has apparently found the best USC QB in a decade, but we'll probably see it heat up when Colorado beats him up.
Brick
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http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_bf6eba5e-8a32-11e6-85ef-a3365b79a5e1.html
yes, yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...cult of his personality may get it done. we may have TWITTER CORCH #2.
yes, yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...cult of his personality may get it done. we may have TWITTER CORCH #2.
Lightningwar
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Good year to be Tom Herman. Bad year to be the following programs
LSU
Tejas
USC
Houston
Craig7835
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OK anytime his defense has given up more points in 5 games than they did,I would be pissed too. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the FSU BCS team that went undefeated gave up only 140 points the ENTIRE season?
Kelly's problem is he calls WAAAAY too much man coverage & blitzes. When UNC went into that Stack Formation,the fool called man coverage & the defense got burned
Lightningwar
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I'd have to look at the defense in 2013 to verify. But I think they lead the nation that year at something like 12 points a game. Kellys problem appears to be horrible play calling + an overly complex system.
The players dont know what they are supposed to do to begin. Then he calls a terrible game. We run base 4-2-5 like 80% of the game. There was a thread on Warchant discussing Ronald Darbys complaints about the difference between Pruitt and Kellys defenses. Kelly is way too complex in coverage schemes and guys didnt know what to do in 2014. Then the play calling made it worse. Anybody watching this defense can see they are confused. Big plays happen and guys are all looking at each other like they have no idea who was supposed to cover. It is made worse against high temp teams because Kelly cant get the play in fast enough. Which explains several plays where guys are still looking at the sidelines while the offense snaps the ball.
I'd actually welcome some kind of blitz. Seems like we rarely blitz and expect our front 4 to get to the QB. Which doesnt happen enough. Anyways as proof of Kellys inability to scheme and call plays. Check out the PI play against UNC that setup them up to kick the FG.
Can anybody explain why Mathew Thomas is spying a non-running QB in an obvious passing situation? Why is our safety 40 yards from the LOS when they needed about 15-20 yards? And where is the inside help on McFadden when he is funneling him inside?
It is this type of shit that makes me think Kelly is incompetent. He isnt playing a defense can work for our talent. Im not sure any level of talent can overcome the above.
The players dont know what they are supposed to do to begin. Then he calls a terrible game. We run base 4-2-5 like 80% of the game. There was a thread on Warchant discussing Ronald Darbys complaints about the difference between Pruitt and Kellys defenses. Kelly is way too complex in coverage schemes and guys didnt know what to do in 2014. Then the play calling made it worse. Anybody watching this defense can see they are confused. Big plays happen and guys are all looking at each other like they have no idea who was supposed to cover. It is made worse against high temp teams because Kelly cant get the play in fast enough. Which explains several plays where guys are still looking at the sidelines while the offense snaps the ball.
I'd actually welcome some kind of blitz. Seems like we rarely blitz and expect our front 4 to get to the QB. Which doesnt happen enough. Anyways as proof of Kellys inability to scheme and call plays. Check out the PI play against UNC that setup them up to kick the FG.
Can anybody explain why Mathew Thomas is spying a non-running QB in an obvious passing situation? Why is our safety 40 yards from the LOS when they needed about 15-20 yards? And where is the inside help on McFadden when he is funneling him inside?
It is this type of shit that makes me think Kelly is incompetent. He isnt playing a defense can work for our talent. Im not sure any level of talent can overcome the above.
Lightningwar
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Yup, if Pruitt didnt run to UGA. I think FSU wins a second national championship that season. Our offense was still crazy good. And that defense was loaded with NFL talent squandered by Kelly.
That same unpreparedness is there. Two of FSUs worst losses in history had Kelly as the DC.
That same unpreparedness is there. Two of FSUs worst losses in history had Kelly as the DC.
Craig7835
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I agree. Pruitt was the 'Noles best coordinator bar none after Mickie Andrews. Kelly needs to game plan a little better or better yet not coordinate at all
Craig7835
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@Lightningwar
I found the rankings from the Pruitt Era in that 2013 BCS Team
2nd Total Defense
6th Points Allowed
1st Passing defense
3rd Rushing defense
I don't feel like typing Charles Kelly's stuff because his defenses at Georgia Tech were the drizzling shits
I found the rankings from the Pruitt Era in that 2013 BCS Team
2nd Total Defense
6th Points Allowed
1st Passing defense
3rd Rushing defense
I don't feel like typing Charles Kelly's stuff because his defenses at Georgia Tech were the drizzling shits
Lightningwar
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UGA was his dream job. I suspect once Smart washes out at UGA in a few years Pruitt will go back as the HC.
Lightningwar
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2014
Total Defense:61
Points allowed:49
Passing Defense:59
Rushing Defense:71
2015
Total Defense:19
Points allowed:9
Passing Defense:21
Rushing Defense: 37
2016
Total Defense:94
Points Allowed:106
Passing Defense:83
Rushing Defense:92
Fire him already.
Craig7835
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Pruitt left for Georgia after lil'Bobby Petrino-Todd Grantham left to go back to Louisville. Now the 2012 FSU team that finished 12-2,damn near the WHOLE staff left. Mike Stoops along with defensive line coach & the running back coach left for Kentucky & word was that Jimbo was trying to cockblock Stoops from taking that job. Demayune Craig,who was the QB coach left for Auburn.
Most of the guys on the staff didn't like Jimbo trying to hinder them
Soonerfan09
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I would love to see OU fire Mike Stoops and hire Charlie Strong as DC. I doubt it will happen, but it needs to.
silverwheels
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No way Bob is firing his brother. It was hard enough for him to fire Heupel.
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